How to Solve an Integral/Diff Problem: Finding Antiderivative of (x^2)/(4-(x^2))

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The discussion revolves around finding the antiderivative of the function (x^2)/(4-(x^2)), following an initial differentiation of x.ln(4-(x^2)). Participants are exploring methods related to integration techniques and the application of partial fractions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to divide the expression and the implications of the degrees of the numerator and denominator in integration. There are mentions of using long division and partial fractions, with some questioning the effectiveness of these methods given the problem's structure.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on different approaches. Some have acknowledged potential missteps in their reasoning, while others are suggesting alternative methods to tackle the integration problem. There is no clear consensus on the best approach yet.

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There are references to specific educational contexts, such as VCE, which may impose certain constraints on the methods that can be used. Participants are also grappling with the requirement that the degree of the numerator must be less than that of the denominator for certain techniques to be applicable.

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OK, here's the question:

Differentiate x.ln(4-(x^2))
Which is:

ln(4-(x^2)) - (2(x^2))/(4-(x^2))

Now, find an antiderivative of (x^2)/(4-(x^2)).

Answer says -x + ln( (2+x)/(2-x) ) +c

How do I get that? The comments say "Many failed to recognise the need to divide" - What does that mean?

I'm so damn stuck! Please help! Any is appreciated.
 
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Muzly said:
OK, here's the question:
Differentiate x.ln(4-(x^2))
Which is:
ln(4-(x^2)) - (2(x^2))/(4-(x^2))
Now, find an antiderivative of (x^2)/(4-(x^2)).
Answer says -x + ln( (2+x)/(2-x) ) +c
How do I get that? The comments say "Many failed to recognise the need to divide" - What does that mean?
I'm so damn stuck! Please help! Any is appreciated.
[tex]\int\frac{x^2}{4-x^2}\,dx=\int\frac{x^2}{\left(2-x\right)\left(2+x\right)}\,dx[/tex]

Then use partial fractions.
 
Well aren't I a bit silly - should have long-divided then used partial fractions!

Whoops - my bad! :redface:
 
Muzly - Are you doing the VCE?

I don't think you can use partial fractions(well you can use it but it won't get you anywhere) if the degree of the numerator is not strictly less than the degree of the denominator.

Use the following and then use integration by recognition to complete the question.

[tex] \frac{{x^2 }}{{4 - x^2 }} = \frac{{ - \left( {4 - x^2 - 4} \right)}}{{4 - x^2 }} = - 1 + \frac{4}{{4 - x^2 }}[/tex]

Long divison is not really needed for this question.
 

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