Solving Trajectory Problem: Castle Wall Cannonball

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically the trajectory of a cannonball fired from a castle wall at a given speed and angle. The original poster is attempting to determine the horizontal distance the cannonball travels before hitting the ground and its maximum height above the ground.

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  • The original poster outlines their calculations for the horizontal distance and maximum height, but expresses confusion over discrepancies with the textbook answers. They question their method for solving for time and the resulting calculations for distance.
  • Some participants suggest revisiting the calculations for time, noting potential errors in the setup of the equations.
  • Others provide insights into the maximum height calculation, discussing the conditions when the vertical velocity becomes zero.
  • One participant introduces the quadratic formula as a method to solve for time, indicating a specific setup of coefficients for the equation derived from the motion equations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as stated, including the initial conditions and assumptions about acceleration due to gravity. There is a noted discrepancy between the original poster's results and the textbook answers, which is driving the discussion.

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I am not getting the same answer as the text for this problem:
A cannon is fired from the top of the castle wall. The cannonball is fired at 50 m/s at an angle of 30 degrees. A cannonball that was accidentally dropped hits the moat below in 5s.
(a) How far from the castle wall does the cannonball hit the ground?
(b) What is the ball's maximum height above the ground?

Known: x(i) = t(i) = 0
v(i) = 50 m/s
v(ix) = (50m/s)(cos30) = 43m/s = v(fx)
v(iy) = (50m/s)(sin30) = 25m/s
a(x) = 0
a(y) = -9.8 m/s^2
y(f) = 0
For (a), I need to solve for x(f)

Step 1. Given t=1.5s for a cannonball to drop to the ground, I can calculate the height of the castle wall or y(i) = 1/2 (-9.8m/s^2) (1.5s)^2 = 11m

Step 2. Using the above value, solve for t:
y(f)=0=y(i) + v(iy)(t) + 1/2a(y)(t)^2
-11 = 25(t) - 4.9(t)^2
-11 = t[25 - 4.9t]
t = 0 or let 25 - 4.9t = 0
t = -25/-4.9 = 5.1s

Step 3, calculate x(f) = x(i) + v(ix)(t) + 1/2a(x)(t)^2
x(f) = 0 + 43(5.1) + 0 = 219 m

The answer in the text says it should be 239 m. Any insight on what I have done wrong?

How do I calculate (b)?

Thanks and sorry for the long post.
 
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I think the problem is where you are solving for t. You have -11 on the lefthand side of the equation not zero!
 
Answe of the (B)

When the ball reaches its maximum height above the ground, its velocity became zero, so: (assuming that g=10)
The acceleration in the y direction is constant and equal to “-g” so we can write:
v(fy)*v(fy) – v(iy)*v(iy)=-2gh and we know that v(fy)=0 so
h = v(iy)*v(iy)/2g=(25*25)/(2*10) = 31.25
H=h+h(i) which h(i) is the height of castle wall
 
How should I solve for t? I revised my Step 2 above and came up with t=11s or t=7.3s --> both answers put my x(f) value way over what the answer is supposed to be.
 
The general solution of a quadratic formula of the form:
[tex]ax^2+bx+c=0[/tex]
is given by:
[tex]x=\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}[/tex]
It is derived by completing the square of the above equation. In this case we need to solve for the times when the equation [itex]-4.9t^2+25t+11[/itex] is zero, therefore
[tex]\begin{equation}\begin{split}a=-4.9 \\<br /> b = 25 \\<br /> c = 11<br /> \end{split}\end{equation}[/tex]
in this case. Use the second equation above to solve for the times - I got 5.5 s
 
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