What Happens to Voltage in an Electric Circuit?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of voltage in electric circuits, particularly how it relates to charge movement, resistance, and measurements at various points in a circuit. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the nature of voltage when no resistance is present, whether voltage can be considered "used up," and how voltage behaves in series and parallel configurations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of voltage in circuits with varying resistance, questioning whether voltage remains present without current flow and if it can be measured at different points. They also discuss the concept of voltage drop across components in series and parallel arrangements.

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Some participants have offered insights into the nature of voltage in open circuits and the behavior of voltage in series and parallel configurations. There is ongoing exploration of specific scenarios presented by the original poster, with requests for clarification and additional information regarding circuit measurements.

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Participants note the ambiguity in measuring voltage at specific points in a circuit and the importance of understanding voltage in relation to resistance values. The original poster has provided visual aids to enhance understanding, indicating a desire for deeper clarification.

Erwin Schrodinger
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I need help with the idea of voltage as it relates to electric circuits. My book doesn't explain the concept well enough. All it says is that voltage is the force that moves charge through a circuit and overcomes resistance. Then it just states Ohm's Law, V=IR.

Here are the things I don't understand. If someone could give a brief explanation, that would be great.

1) If a cell moves charge through a circuit without any relevant resistance, is voltage from the cell still present but not doing anything, or is it not present at all?

2) Is voltage "used up"? If 6V cell moves charge through a resistor that requires 1V, then afterwards would there only be 5V left?

3) If a 5V cell is connected in series to a parallel circuit, would each "branch" of the parallel circuit have 5V?

I can draw some pictures to show you what I mean if my questions don't make sense.
 
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Erwin Schrödinger said:
I need help with the idea of voltage as it relates to electric circuits. My book doesn't explain the concept well enough. All it says is that voltage is the force that moves charge through a circuit and overcomes resistance. Then it just states Ohm's Law, V=IR.
Here are the things I don't understand. If someone could give a brief explanation, that would be great.
1) If a cell moves charge through a circuit without any relevant resistance, is voltage from the cell still present but not doing anything, or is it not present at all?
If the circiut is open, or has infinite resistance, then no current flows. The cell potential is present. If the resistance is zero, as in "no relevant resistance" then the maximum current the cell is capable of will flow. In a real cell the output voltage will drop.
2) Is voltage "used up"? If 6V cell moves charge through a resistor that requires 1V, then afterwards would there only be 5V left?
No voltage is not used up. In a real cell, with carefull measurements you can measure full cell voltage even if the cell is considered dead.
3) If a 5V cell is connected in series to a parallel circuit, would each "branch" of the parallel circuit have 5V?
I can draw some pictures to show you what I mean if my questions don't make sense.
Yes, the voltage drop across parallel branches is equal.
 
Hmm I still need help with 1 and 2. I made some pictures to show you what I mean.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/8420/volt13pc.jpg
1. If you measured the voltage at point D, would it be 6V?

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2395/volt6yn.jpg
2. If you measured the voltage at point A, it would it be 6V? Point B would be 2V? Point C would be 0V?
 
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Erwin Schrödinger said:
Hmm I still need help with 1 and 2. I made some pictures to show you what I mean.
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/8420/volt13pc.jpg
1. If you measured the voltage at point D, would it be 6V?
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2395/volt6yn.jpg
2. If you measured the voltage at point A, it would it be 6V? Point B would be 2V? Point C would be 0V?
For 1, the voltage would not be six volts. Refer to the basic definition of voltage for hints as to why.
For 2, what are the values for R1 and R2.
[tex]V_1 = R_1 * I[/tex]
[tex]V_2 = R_2 * I[/tex]
Remember that current though a series circuit is always the same because there is only one path for it to flow.
By the way, when you say voltage at point B. That can be ambiguous. Voltage is measured across two points. For example on your circuit the voltage across [tex]R_1[/tex] could be stated as [tex]V_{ab}[/tex].
 
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