What Are the True Origins of Magnetism?

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The discussion revolves around the origins of magnetism, particularly in relation to Earth's magnetic field and the fundamental nature of magnetism itself. Participants explore various types of magnetism, the role of electrons, and the relationship between electricity and magnetism.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that Earth's magnetism may be produced by generator-like chambers where chemicals mix, questioning the root origins of magnetism and whether photons possess magnetism.
  • Another participant states that the cause of Earth's magnetic field is unknown and proposes the Peltier-Seebeck effect as a possibility, asserting that magnetism arises from electrons.
  • Different types of magnetism are outlined, including ferromagnetism, diamagnetism, and paramagnetism, with detailed explanations of their mechanisms and characteristics.
  • Ferromagnetism is described as resulting from quantum effects, including electron spin and the Pauli exclusion principle, leading to the alignment of magnetic dipoles and the phenomenon of hysteresis.
  • Diamagnetism is characterized as a weak form of magnetism that requires an external magnetic field and is found in all materials, while paramagnetism is noted for its temporary alignment with an external field.
  • One participant asserts that photons are not magnetic.
  • A question is raised about the magnetic properties of positrons, to which another participant responds affirmatively, linking electric charge to magnetic properties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the origins of magnetism and the nature of magnetic properties, with no consensus reached on the fundamental causes or the role of various particles.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the specific mechanisms behind Earth's magnetic field and the nature of magnetism in relation to different particles, including photons and positrons.

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So these Earth's magnetism is supposedly produced inside these generator-like chambers inside of which various chemicals are mixing to form some sort of giant electromagnet, in theory, right?

But whether this is or isn't true, where does magnetism come from at its root? Do photons have magnetism?
 
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I think it is unknown to the cause of the Earth's magnetic field. Is it the Peltier-Seebeck effect? http://en.wikipedia.org/Peltier-Seebeck_effect

Where does magnetism arise from? Electrons.

There are different types of magnetism, lucky for you, the three main being: Diamagnetism, Paramagnets, and Ferromagnetism. We'll go backwards.

Ferromagnetism is the kind you normally observe. Refrigerator magnets, speaker magnets, wallet magnets, permanent magnets.

Ferromagnetism is due to the direct influence of two quantum effects: quantum spin, and the Pauli exclusion principle.
The spin of an electron, (something you can't visualize correctly) combined with its orbital angular momentum, results in a magnetic dipole moment and creates a magnetic field. (if you need to, you can imagine the electrons spinning around). The dipoles tend to align spontaneously, without any applied field.

Ferromagnetism manifests itself in the fact that a small externally imposed magnetic field, say from a solenoid, can cause the magnetic domains to line up with each other and the material is said to be magnetized. The driving magnetic field will then be increased by a large factor which is usually expressed as a relative permeability for the material. Ferromagnets will stay magnetized after having been aligned to this exterior magnetic field. Called hysteresis. The fraction of the saturation magnetization which is retained when the driving field is removed is called the remanence of the material.

All ferromagnets have a maximum temperature where the ferromagnetic property disappears as a result of thermal agitation -- the Curie temperature. You know that heat is actually just the atoms shaking around, after the atoms shake around enough they aren't all aligned the same way!

So really, all the electrons are "spinning" the same way, and that creates the field.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...sol/domain.gif

Diamagnetism is a very weak form of magnetism, that needs another magnetic field to work. It is the result of changes in the orbital motion of electrons. Diamagnetism is repelling. Diamagnetism is found in all materials; however, because it is so weak it can only be observed in materials that do not exhibit other forms of magnetism. Some diamagnetic materials that should be recognized are water, pyrolitic graphite, and superconductors.
http://www.exploratorium.edu/snacks/diamagnetism_www/

Paramagnetism is closely related to diamagnetism, and also needs an external magnetic field. It occurs temporarily, when its magnetic dipoles align with the external field. Some paramagnetic materials that should be known are oxygen, aluminum, and sodium.

Photons are not magnetic.
 
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Thanks for answering! One last question.

Does a positron have magnetic properties?
 
Yes, positrons have an electric charge of +1. Do you understand that "electricity and magnetism are two sides of the same coin?"
 

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