Solve Vector Equation 2x-(xdoti)i for x

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The discussion revolves around solving a vector equation involving dot and cross products, specifically the equation 2x - (xdoti)i = i + 5j - (xi). Participants express confusion regarding the interpretation of the dot product and the notation used for the vector x.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the representation of the vector x and its components, questioning the meaning of the notation "xi" and how to correctly apply the dot and cross products in the context of the equation. Some participants attempt to substitute components into the equation to clarify their understanding.

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The discussion has progressed with participants sharing their interpretations and calculations. Some have provided insights into the dot product and cross product, while others have expressed uncertainty about specific steps. There appears to be a collaborative effort to clarify the problem, though no consensus has been reached on a final solution.

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Participants note the complexity of the notation and the need for careful interpretation of vector operations. There is mention of confusion regarding the matrix representation of the cross product and how it affects the overall solution.

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Hi all,

I would like some help with a tricky vector equation, I need to solve for x.

2x-(xdoti)i = i + 5j - (xi)

The dot is a dot product and not multiply. i am not sure how to deal with the dot product, I am little confused. Any help would be excellent. Thanks. :smile:
 
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if
[tex]\vec{x}=x_i \hat{i} + x_j \hat{j}[/tex]
and
[tex]\vec{y}=y_i \hat{i} + y_j \hat{j}[/tex]
then
[tex]x \dotprod y = x_i y_i + x_j y_j[/tex]
 
square_imp said:
Hi all,
I would like some help with a tricky vector equation, I need to solve for x.
2x-(xdoti)i = i + 5j - (xi)
The dot is a dot product and not multiply. i am not sure how to deal with the dot product, I am little confused. Any help would be excellent. Thanks. :smile:
I'm a little confused myself! (xdoti) implies that x is a vector but then "xi" is not clear. If x= ai+ bj then "x dot i" is just a so "2a- (x dot i)i would be
2ai+ 2bj- ai= ai+ 2bj. But then I have no idea what (xi) means.
 
The (xi) at the end is actually x cross i, I didnt read it carefully emough. Now, I have had another crack at it working out the dot and cross product sections in the equation, this is my working:

2x-(ai + bj).(i) = i +5j -((ai + bj) cross i)

substituting the x for ai(unit vector) and bj(unit vector)
gives:

2x-ai = i + 5j - bk
x = [(a+1)i + 5j -bk]/2

is this working correct? The bit I am most unsure about is the working out of the cross product using matrices. Thanks for the help, sort of clicked my brain into gear.
 
Write x as ai+ bj+ ck. Then 2x= 2ai+ 2bj+ 2ck and (x dot i)i= ai so 2x- (x dot i)i= (2a-a)i+ 2bj+ 2ck= ai+ 2bj+ 2ck. x cross i= cj- bk.

2x-(xdoti)i = i + 5j - (x cross i) is
ai+2bj+ 2ck= i+ (5-c)j- bk

We must have a=1, 1b=5- c and 2c= -b.

Can you solve those?
 
Thanks guys, got it all sorted I think. Realised my mistake with the matrix. Got x to be: (i + 2j + k) which when substitutued back into the original formula all works out. Thanks again. :biggrin:
 

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