Are Physical Laws Consistent Across Multidimensional Universes?

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The discussion explores the consistency of physical laws across potentially existing multidimensional universes, examining whether these laws would remain the same or vary in different universes. The scope includes theoretical considerations and speculative reasoning about the nature of physical constants and laws in alternate realities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that while the basic laws of physics might remain constant, the physical constants could differ across universes.
  • Others argue that the laws in our universe may not apply in other universes, suggesting that fundamental equations like E=mc² might not hold true elsewhere.
  • A participant notes that the derivation of E=mc² relies on specific assumptions about the nature of time and space, which may not be applicable in other dimensional contexts.
  • There is a suggestion that if a universe were created with different substances, it could lead to entirely different physical laws.
  • Some participants question whether there are any restrictions on the variability of constants or laws in different dimensional frameworks, indicating uncertainty about their applicability.
  • One participant highlights the difficulty in precisely defining the question, noting that imagining higher-dimensional universes requires disregarding established observations.
  • Another participant reflects on the evolution of dimensional theories, from Euclidean to Einstein's four dimensions and string theory's eleven dimensions, while asserting that E=mc² remains a constant in their view.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus reached on whether physical laws would be consistent across multidimensional universes. Multiple competing perspectives remain regarding the nature of these laws and constants.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of dimensions and physical laws that are not universally accepted, as well as varying interpretations of what constitutes a universe and its properties.

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If there were other universes being created all the time (and that's a big if), do you think that the laws would be different or would they all follow the same basic physical laws?
 
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While the basic laws might not be variable, the constants would almost certainly be different.

I think... :rolleyes:
 
Well all the laws, equations in physics and even chemistry 'd be same through out our universe and will not be affected by the creation of any other universe no matter where or when. But it is very certain that all the laws in our universe may not hold same in any other universe, there e may not be equal to mc^2, proton may not be stabe or something so on...
 
there e may not be equal to mc^2

The fact that an object at relative rest has total energy E = mc^2, in all its relevance as a conserved quantity, can be derived from the homogeneity of time (the fact that now is not fundamentally different than later). Of course, we must also agree that our universe is a four dimensional manifold and that there exists a maximum relative speed, but these are reasonable requirements.
 
It depends. If "someone" were to create an entirely different universe based on some different substances who is to say that everything can't be different? Maybe he will get bored with all this "spinning spiral" nonsense and use straight lines and squares? Of course, you can't really answer this question with science because no experimental evidence exists to talk about such alternative universes (all science can do is attempt to describe the universe we are in and the things that appear to be constant in it).
 
Is there anything that forbids the constants or laws to change?

Would the physical laws apply the same way in 3D to multidimensional universes?...I am guessing that it would not be the same.
 
The problem with this question is that it is hard to make it precise.

To imagine a 5D universe, we already need to disregard some facts of what we do observe. Once this first step is taken, one needs to define a bound to the kind of changes that we are willing to accept; otherwise, any physical law can be tossed just as the number 3 for the number of spatial dimensions.
 
Gold Barz said:
If there were other universes being created all the time (and that's a big if), do you think that the laws would be different or would they all follow the same basic physical laws?
When I create my first new universe I'll let you know. :biggrin:

Pete
 
Gold Barz said:
Is there anything that forbids the constants or laws to change?
Would the physical laws apply the same way in 3D to multidimensional universes?...I am guessing that it would not be the same.
Well eulicd said universe can only exist in 3 dimension, then came Einstein and said 3 dimensions r not enough and introdused 4th. Now string theorists suggested there are 11 dimension, which is hardly doubted. But the bottomline is E has always been equal to mc^2.
 

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