Getting electricity from water tap

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The discussion centers around an incident where a user experienced electrical shocks from a water tap connected to an electric water boiler. Participants explore potential causes and safety measures related to grounding and electrical installations, particularly in the context of plumbing and electrical systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the water pipes may not have a proper ground, which could lead to current leakage from the heating elements, making the pipes conductive.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of not using the tap until the issue is resolved, warning that the situation could worsen.
  • A different viewpoint proposes checking and fixing the grounding for the new electrical heater circuit and installing a GFCI to prevent ground faults.
  • One participant raises the possibility that the plumber may have replaced a metal pipe with plastic, which would require bridging with a bonding wire to maintain grounding integrity.
  • There is mention of electrical installation codes in the US, noting that bathroom fixtures typically require GFCI protection, which may not be applicable in the user's location.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for proper grounding and safety measures, but there are differing opinions on the specific causes of the electrical shock and the necessary steps to resolve the issue.

Contextual Notes

There are uncertainties regarding local electrical codes and the specifics of the plumbing changes made by the plumber, which may affect the grounding and safety of the installation.

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i have a water boiler in my bathroom, which is heated with electricity. Its quite old boiler(10 years) and its heater has been replaced with a new one about 3-4 months ago. Few days ago i had an water pipe accident so i had to turn water down and so i turned my boiler off. When the plummer fixed the pipe i switched the boiler on again. And when i turned water tap to wash my hands i experienced an electrical shock. First i didnt believe it but then i wanted to be sure and touched the water tap again and I am sure i experienced electricity and it wasnt pleasant. It seems like the only time i can get electricity is when the water is flowing. Now i can't figure out why it is happening and I am not too keen to use the water tap in my bathroom. Can anyone explain and give some advice?
 
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You should make sure your water pipes have a good ground. Water pipes are sometimes used as a safety ground for electrical systems. If the pipes are not grounded as thought and there is current leakage from the heating elements, the pipes become conductors to you instead of ground.
 
Do you experience any discomfort while urinating? :eek:

Seriously, though... don't touch it until it's sorted out. You could get much worse than a tingle in your fingers.
 
You should do at least two things about this, IMO. 1) Check and fix the grounding for the new electrical heater circuit. And 2) install a GFCI in series with the power source for the heater circuit. The GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupter) has a resettable fuse switch that will open the circuit if there is a ground fault where some of the primary power starts to return to ground instead of staying in the normal hot-neutral path.

I'm not familiar with the typical electrical installation codes and grounding in Estonia, but as other posters have suggested, you need to have the integrity of your ground connections checked, and the new heater circuit needs to be checked to be sure that its ground connections have been made correctly.
 
It may be that the plumber replaced a section of metal pipe with plastic pipe. If so the plastic section should be `bridged' with a bare bonding wire.
In the US (with some exceptions) all bathroom electrical fixtures must have a "ground fault interrupter" on their power source. A water heater's current requirement may not be met by a standard wall outlet, and in the US would be served by a combination circuit breaker/GFCI in the power distribution panel.
 

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