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    Exploring the Relationship Between Wave Functions and the Uncertainty Principle

    Is it true that the wave function of a particle is a probability wave related to its position?( probability wave for lack of a better terming/understanding) And if it does give any form of insight on its position, could this be related to the uncertainty principle in any way? Meaning could...
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    Drakkith I am convinced that order of our scale could never truly come out of chaos. It makes much more sense that it is misunderstood chaos. Also, proof of a narrow minded way of thinking Theory 1 Theory 2 must either refute theory 1 or include it in theory 2 Theory 3 must either refute...
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    Ken g You act as if there is no logical evidence toward determinism? that it is simply a belief in the only other thing that's left when you disregard indeterminacy. Think simply. Think like anyone with logic can do. When much smaller constituents create a much larger thing, and this much...
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    Also you didnt understand what i meant when i spoke of Newton and Einstein as layman. Newton came up with gravity based on simple logic. Einstein came up with special relativity based on simple logic that can easily be explained. The fact that you can come up with a theory without maths, and...
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    How can you say any kind of decay is truly chaotic, when half lives are fairly predictable? How can you say anything is truly chaotic, when others are not? For something to be truly chaotic, everything would need to be truly chaotic. Everything would need to be indeterminacy. Every physical...
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    I didnt know you weren't allowed to post heaps of messages, it will be one at a time then :p Thanks Also, there is something fundamental you are forgetting when you speak of quantum mechanics as being so sound that the maths behind it excludes the idea of determinism. Here is the fundamental...
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    Give me an example of truly chatoic phenomena? One that couldn't easily be accounted for due to a lack of understanding of how the phenomena occurs
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    "we have heard examples above that were neither, and one that was both." I disagree with this entirely. I have heard no such thing. Point out your examples and i will tell you why they are one or the other.
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    Ken g, physics is based on logic. The word random is based on " we don't understand the logic". or more like, "we think there is no logic in the way things work" So if physics is based on logic. But according to indeterminists there is no actual logic because everything we think is all derived...
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    Think about the first time the word random was ever used. Let's say a version of it was used by a cave man 14,000 years ago, he would have said the full moon was random. Little more info, it aint random. He would have said getting sick was random. Little more info, it aint random.THE WORD...
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    Sorry just re-read ur message. You are a determinist. And what you said is OBVIOUSLY true hahah
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    and halycon-on, what do you think about it?
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    The outcomes of a dice aren't random at all? The variables are just very minute and too complex for us to predict. So the fact that a random dice throw isn't random. In itself should show that its smaller constituents that decide its outcome are not random. Logic itself denies indeterminacy...
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    Listen, a lot of people on here know more about physics than me guaranteed, but it is obvious that detailed knowledge is not required to understand or even produce intelligent theories. ( Newton, Einstein,). Even M-theory requires a largely different perspective of things than most would...
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    DETERMINISM OR RANDOM? Pick a side

    Also when you view all of these topics from a more outside perspective, rather than trying to find answers within current understandings, it is obvious that there is order in the universe, such as self-similarity in nature. For one to say indeterminacy is the answer, you would HAVE to say that...
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