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    I How many bits or bytes of information are present in 1 atom

    Theres actually some debate as to whether space is quantized Peter. Even with continuous space events can still occur in a quantized manner, Like the spinning wheel on the price is right. The wheel spins smoothly, but the point points in an all-or-nothing, quantized manner.
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    I How many bits or bytes of information are present in 1 atom

    Wouldn't you need a photon with a wavelength approaching 0 to locate a particle to an exact point location of the center of mass? The consensus when I asked the hup detail question on this forum in 2013 was that the hup was the speed limit on detailedness of a particle. Like 4 people concurred...
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    I How many bits or bytes of information are present in 1 atom

    I don't have any disagreement with what you said except; To use an example, say in another universe the HUP was shifted in the direction that would make it much harder to get precision measurements of position/momentum than it is in our universe. As if you could hardly know anything about a...
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    I How many bits or bytes of information are present in 1 atom

    By raw information i was referring to the total system, not a computers memory. The black hole stuff i don't disagree with at all. My understanding was rough around the edges but i don't think we had a crucial disagreement. On the HUP, Peter how can the HUP not be considered the limiting...
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    I How many bits or bytes of information are present in 1 atom

    Also closing this thread would be immature and completely on you Peter. If I am dropping things that are not easily answered, then this thread is one of the few threads that you should want to guard with your life until an very adept person comes along and shows us that you and i were perhaps...
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    I How many bits or bytes of information are present in 1 atom

    I cleaned up my post just now and reinforced the points I am making please read through it. Ill look for the articles i read which reinforced my preformed understandings. Also i didnt see you disagree with anything i said other then semantic(s/ally) so I want to clarify; infinite detail in a...
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    I How many bits or bytes of information are present in 1 atom

    People definitively answered a question i had on stack saying that the HUP is the precise reason there is not infinite information or infinite detail present in any sort of matter or energy. If you had infinite detail you would be able to say things like “the electron actually DOES HAVE both a...
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    I How many bits or bytes of information are present in 1 atom

    Right. I basically mean that hup puts an upper limit about how detailed the universe is.. In a way its like the size of pixels on a screen. From a pixel density on a computer screen you can infer the amount of data needed to encode the image displayed. There cannot be infinite detain in a given...
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    If entropy increases, where does the information come from?

    Interesting. Could you elaborate a bit more about why suskind called it information?
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    If entropy increases, where does the information come from?

    So is there a slight disconnect between the concept of a systems information content and its entropy? What i don't get is that if a system gains information it should take more to describe it. But it seems like apart from each particles intrinsic values, each particle could be described by an...
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    If entropy increases, where does the information come from?

    Again, why is there a cutoff in not being able to know about n particles. Also, you should be able to know the exact same amount about each particle in a 10^23 mass of particles as you can know about each particle in a 2 particle mass. HUP doesn't care how many particles you are looking at. And...
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    If entropy increases, where does the information come from?

    So if you have 2 hydrogen atoms bouncing around in a otherwize empty box, at a certain point when adding more H atoms the system becomes a gas? What is the cutoff point mr Adonis? Sounds like a massive paradox to me.
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    If entropy increases, where does the information come from?

    If a gas expands it's entropy increases. So how would a simplification of two gas particles not follow the same entropy increase?
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    If entropy increases, where does the information come from?

    My question is, since Shannon entropy is considered information, where does this new information come from? [Mentors's note: some unnecessary and off-topic argumentation has been removed from this post]
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    If entropy increases, where does the information come from?

    Like entropy increases if two particles spread out. Why does that mean information has increased when the positions (xyz) only take 3 coordinates in both former and latter cases?
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