Proving that there is no rational number whose square is two

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The problem involves proving that no rational number squared equals 2, focusing on the properties of rational numbers and their representation in lowest terms.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the assumption that one of the numbers in the fraction representation must be odd and explore the implications of this assumption. Questions are raised about the uniqueness of the lowest term form of a fraction and its relevance to the proof.

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The discussion is exploring various interpretations of the assumptions involved in the proof. Some participants have provided insights into the reasoning behind assuming one number is odd and the implications of fractions in lowest terms, but there is no explicit consensus on the proof's conclusion.

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Participants note the importance of the lowest term representation of fractions and the uniqueness of this representation in the context of the proof.

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The question is to prove that no rational number squared is = 2

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I want to understand why for (a/b)^2 = 2, we assume one of the numbers is odd.

Is this because, from approximation we know that root 2 is not a whole number, and If they were both even, we would end up with a whole number?
 
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If both numbers are even, we would cancel the common factors of 2 until one of them is odd.
 
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As @phyzguy said, the assumption is that (a/b) is a fraction reduced to lowest form, and that means that there are no common factors of 2.

This is an example of something you'll see in a lot of mathematical proofs called "without loss of generality..." (WLOG). We can always assume that a rational number can be represented as (a/b) with one of them odd, because so long as both are even you can reduce the fraction by dividing both numerator and denominator by 2. So assuming any rational number at all means there's a rational number with that property.

So the mathematician would say, "Assume that ##\sqrt 2## is rational and WLOG that ##\sqrt 2 = a/b## where either a or b or both are odd."
 
if you know the lowest term form of a fraction is unique, you are almost done. i.e. if a/b is in lowest terms, i.e. a and b have no common prime factors, then so is a^2/b^2 in lowest terms, since the same prime factors occur here. But then a^2/b^2 = 2/1, and both sides are in lowest terms, hence tops and bottoms are equal, so a^2 = 2 and b^2 = 1. But no integer a can have a^2 = 2. done.
 

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