Can particles be frozen/stopped and studied?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of freezing, trapping, or suspending particles, particularly focusing on light and its properties. Participants explore concepts related to the behavior of light in different media, the nature of information carried by light, and the potential for studying particles with mass. The scope includes theoretical and conceptual inquiries into the behavior of light and matter.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the concept of "freezing light," with one suggesting that light cannot be stopped or trapped, while others argue that light can be slowed in different media.
  • There is a discussion about whether the "information" carried by light refers to its physical properties or if it can store information in a manner similar to digital files.
  • Some participants propose that particles with mass can be trapped and studied, contrasting this with the behavior of light.
  • Several participants discuss the implications of light's speed being constant in a vacuum and how it interacts with atoms in a medium, including the processes of absorption and re-emission of photons.
  • There are inquiries about the possibility of selecting specific frequencies of light that could travel through a medium without absorption.
  • One participant mentions the concept of standing waves in laser cavities as a form of "frozen" light, while others question the terminology used in popular media regarding light being frozen.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of light's behavior in different contexts. While some agree that light can be slowed in media, others maintain that light always travels at speed c. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of "freezing" light and the nature of information it carries.

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Limitations include varying interpretations of light's behavior in media, the ambiguity surrounding the term "information" in relation to light, and the lack of clarity on the conditions under which particles can be studied when trapped.

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Hi guys and girls. This is my first post. I am a college student, science enthusiast, but layman still. So I thought it would be appropriate for my first post to be a question (since I have way more of them than answers in this realm)
I've read about light being slowed down, i.e http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1124540.stm"

And I've read that light has both properties of waves and particles. It is my understanding that photons are always moving in the natural world, in fact all particles are constantly moving. Stop me if I'm wrong here, I am a layman. So my question is whether or not we could freeze, trap, or suspend a particle in a way that it is essentially stationary relative to us while still retaining its normal properties? If we can completely stop light we would have to see it as either a particle or a wave, not both, correct? If possible, could we somehow mechanically dissect a particle in way biologists do and remove each of its constituent subatomic particles for study? Even if this is possible, would it tell us anything about these particles we don't already know?

I know I presented a lot of questions, some of which might be goofy to the experts around here, but I'd like some feedback regardless, thanks.
 
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Light cannot be stopped, trapped, or slowed down (aside from normal refraction). Articles written for the layman, like the one you linked to, that claim light has been frozen are purposefully written in a misleading way to seem more interesting to the uninformed reader. "Freezing light" experiments do not actually trap light. Rather, the light beam's shape is stored in a block of matter. The light itself is gone, but the information it carried is stored and can be retrieved. There is not much more interesting going on in these type of experiments than when a camera "freezes" the light coming from your face and produces an image of your face. Light always travels at speed c in vacuum.

Now matter is a different case. We can stop, freeze, and trap matter to study it. Some of the most interesting fields that touch on this involve: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%80%93Einstein_condensate" .
 
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Thank you for your response chris. I am confused about the meaning of your statement, "The light itself is gone, but the information it carried is stored and can be retrieved."

By "information" do you mean the physical properties of the light, i.e color and wavelength or are you saying light can literally store information as we know it, like say a word document?

The way you described it brought visions to my mind of "fossilized light," if that makes any sense.

Furthermore, am I correct in assuming that you are saying that particles that have mass can be trapped and studied in a way like, or similar, to how I described?
 
It was my impression that light can be slowed, depending on the medium it is traveling through?
 
khemist said:
It was my impression that light can be slowed, depending on the medium it is traveling through?

That is how I interpret it as well.
 
Super Luminal said:
That is how I interpret it as well.

And looking at wikipedia, this is what it claims as well. Upon thinking about it, I realized that the change in the speed of light is what gives rise to snell's law, or the refracting of light when the medium the light is traveling through changes.

I would have to see a source claiming that the speed doesn't change, just the ability to access information.
 
Light always travels at c. When moving through a medium, it takes a non-zero time to get absorbed and re-emitted, which is what slows its progress through the medium. However, the light itself is always traveling at c.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Light always travels at c. When moving through a medium, it takes a non-zero time to get absorbed and re-emitted, which is what slows its progress through the medium. However, the light itself is always traveling at c.

And this is caused by the atoms in the medium? Is it possible to pick a particular frequency which would cause the light to travel straight through a medium, without any absorption?
 
khemist said:
And this is caused by the atoms in the medium? Is it possible to pick a particular frequency which would cause the light to travel straight through a medium, without any absorption?

If you could find a medium that has no atoms...
 
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DaveC426913 said:
If you could find a medium that has no atoms...

Do atoms absorb and re emit photons which do not match an energy level? If I remember right the photon will kick the electron up, but because it does not reach (or goes over) the energy level it will go back down to the original state and re emit the photon.
 
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khemist said:
Do atoms absorb and re emit photons which do not match an energy level? If I remember right the photon will kick the electron up, but because it does not reach (or goes over) the energy level it will go back down to the original state and re emit the photon.

If the medium were to not absorb and re-emit the photons, it would also have a refractive index of one. There's only one circumstance that has a refractive index of one.
 
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Super Luminal said:
By "information" do you mean the physical properties of the light, i.e color and wavelength or are you saying light can literally store information as we know it, like say a word document?

Yes. Every time you email a Word document from your smartphone, you are sending a beam of light (not visible light, but electromagnetic waves just the same) from your phone through the air to a cell phone tower containing the document's information in the light's shape. The information is encoded in the wave's shape. When the cell phone tower receives the Word document, it converts the light shape to an electrical signal of the same shape. The electrical signal can then go to someone else's computer and show up on their screen. In this sense, the light signal is "frozen" even though the actual light wave itself is long gone. I don't personally like this terminology myself as it can be misleading, but the popular media seems to like to use this language to make the science seem exciting.

The closest thing we have to light itself actually being frozen would be standing waves, such as in a laser cavity. The actually photons are still traveling at speed c, but the overall wave shape (called the mode pattern) seems to be frozen in the cavity.
 

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