action Definition and 16 Threads

  1. Kostik

    A Dirac's "comprehensive action principle" -- independent equations

    In Dirac's "General Theory of Relativity", he develops the "comprehensive action principle" in chapter 30. Simply put, he writes a combined action for the gravitational field and all other matter-energy fields ##I=I_g+I'##. Varying this: $$\delta(I_g+I')=\int ( p^{\mu\nu}\delta g_{\mu\nu} +...
  2. Kostik

    A Dirac's derivation of the action/Lagrangian for a free particle

    The action for a free particle is $$I=-m\int{ds} = \int \left(-m\frac{ds}{dt}\right) dt \quad\quad\quad(*)$$ hence the Lagrangian is $$L=-m\frac{ds}{dt}=-\frac{m}{\gamma}=-m\sqrt{1-v^2} .$$ Dirac ("General Theory of Relativity", p. 52) infers this by checking that it gives the correct spatial...
  3. Physics_Math_CS

    A Why does the principle of stationary action work?

    I understand the principle of stationary action and why it is very powerful. However I'm trying to (at least qualitatively) understand why this principle works. I believe that, unlike theorems, principles are taken as true, and thus we just accept it. To me, this seems like a cop-out. If we...
  4. G

    I Chunks of action smaller than Planck's constant

    The force two static electric charges exert on each other fulfills (velocity of light set unity) \begin{equation} F r^2 = N_1 N_2 \alpha \hbar \;, \end{equation} where ##F## is the force, ##r## is the mutual distance, ##\alpha## is the dimensionless fine structure constant, ##\hbar## is Planck's...
  5. cianfa72

    I Principle of minimum action and application to real problems

    I've a doubt regarding the application of the principle of minimum action to real cases. Pick an inertial frame with a potential ##V## defined on it. The principle (aka Hamilton's principle) claims that the actual path taken from a body gives rise to a "stationary" action when calculated from a...
  6. paulb203

    B Newton's Third Law Question -- Does the Earth Do Work on Me?

    When I do a press-up I consciously push down on the ground, my muscles tense, I breathe harder, I sweat, etc. When the Earth pushes back up on me (Newton's 3rd Law) is it 'doing anything', or does it push back up on me merely by virtue of it being there?
  7. Let'sthink

    I Work done by action reaction forces when they move things

    Normally action reaction forces do not move things. In this problem they move. I wish to discuss in what way these so called constrain forces contributeto motion or kinetic energy L. Do they do wirk. Yes then why no then why not?
  8. redtree

    I Definition of the special unitary group

    In matrix representation, the special unitary group is distinguished from the more general unitary group by the sign of the matrix determinant. However, this presupposes that the special unitary group is formulated in matrix representation. For a unitary group action NOT formulated in matrix...
  9. ergospherical

    A Diffeo-invariant action for a matter covector field

    I just need a hint to get started, and then I reckon the rest will follow... We consider a theory where matter is a covector field ##\omega_a## which is described by a diffeomorphism-invariant action ##S_m##. Define:$$E^{a} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{-g}} \frac{\delta S_m}{\delta \omega_a}$$Also, ##T^{ab}...
  10. Kostik

    A Boundary conditions in ##\delta I=0## to derive Einstein's equations

    Dirac derives Einstein's field equations from the action principle ##\delta I=0## where $$I=\int R\sqrt{-g} \, d^4x$$ (##R## is the Ricci scalar). Using partial integration, he shows that $$I=\int L\sqrt{-g} \, d^4x$$ where ##L## involves only ##g_{\mu\nu}## and its first derivatives, unlike...
  11. LarryS

    I Is Relativistic Action for a beam of light = zero?

    Under the RELATIVISTIC definition of Action, is the Action for a beam of light always zero? Thanks in advance.
  12. ergospherical

    I Ricci tensor from this action

    Here is an action for a theory which couples gravity to a field in this way:$$S = \int d^4 x \ \sqrt{-g} e^{\Phi} (R + g^{ab} \Phi_{;a} \Phi_{;b})$$I determine\begin{align*} \frac{\partial L}{\partial \phi} &= \sqrt{-g} e^{\Phi} (R + g^{ab} \Phi_{;a} \Phi_{;b}) \\ \nabla_a \frac{\partial...
  13. D

    P&S Exercise 3.4 Majorana Fermions Derivative of ##\chi##

    I am stuck at the final part where one is supposed to show that the derivative of the second term of the action gives the mass term in the Majorana equation. For $$\chi^T\sigma^2\chi = -(\chi^\dagger\sigma^2\chi^*)^*$$ we get $$\frac{\delta}{\delta\chi^\dagger}(\chi^\dagger\sigma^2\chi^*)^*$$...
  14. P

    I How does the quantum of action cause indeterminism?

    How and/or why does the existence of the quantum of action (Planck's constant) cause indeterminism?
  15. ergospherical

    A Extra (boundary?) term in Brans Dicke field equations

    Here is the action: ##S = \frac{1}{16\pi} \int d^4 x \sqrt{-g} (R\phi - \frac{\omega}{\phi} g^{ab} \phi_{,a} \phi_{,b} + 16\pi L_m)## the ordinary matter is included via ##L_m##. Zeroing the variation ##\delta/\delta g^{\mu \nu}## in the usual way gives ##\frac{\delta}{\delta g^{\mu \nu}}[R\phi...
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