-2.1.10 solve ty' -y =t^2e^{-1} u(x)

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation $\displaystyle ty' - y = t^2 e^{-1}$. Participants explore various approaches to find the general solution, including manipulation of the equation and integration techniques. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanation related to differential equations.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a method to solve the differential equation by dividing through by $t$ and obtaining an integrating factor.
  • Another participant points out a potential mistake in the earlier steps, suggesting a different interpretation of the derivative manipulation.
  • A later reply proposes a solution of the form $y = \frac{t^2}{e} + c_1 t$, indicating a different approach to the integration process.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the initial proposed solution, stating it is wrong and providing an alternative link for verification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct solution to the differential equation. Multiple competing views and interpretations of the steps involved remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the manipulation of derivatives and the integration process. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the differential equation's solution.

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Find the general solution of the given differential equation
$\displaystyle ty^\prime -y =t^2e^{-1}\\$
Divide thru by t
$\displaystyle y^\prime-\frac{y}{t}=te^{-1}\\$
Obtain $u(t)$
$\displaystyle u(t)=\exp\int -\frac{1}{t} \, dt =\frac{1}{t}\\$
Multiply thru with $\displaystyle\frac{1}{t}$
$\displaystyle y^\prime -\frac{1}{t}y =te^{-1}\\$
Simplify:
$(\frac{1}{t}y)'=te^{-1} \\$

ok got stuck here so...

Answer from bk
$\displaystyle
\color{red}{y=c_1 -te^{-1}}$ (this is wrong)

$$\tiny\textsf{Text Book: Elementary Differential Equations and Boundary Value disappearProblems}$$
 
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karush said:
Find the general solution of the given differential equation
$\displaystyle ty^\prime -y =t^2e^{-1}\\$
Divide thru by t
$\displaystyle y^\prime-\frac{y}{t}=te^{-1}\\$
Obtain $u(t)$
$\displaystyle u(t)=\exp\int -\frac{1}{t} \, dt =\frac{1}{t}\\$
Multiply thru with $\displaystyle\frac{1}{t}$
$\displaystyle y^\prime -\frac{1}{t}y =te^{-1}\\$
Simplify:
$(\frac{1}{t}y)'=te^{-1} \\$

ok got stuck here so...

Answer from bk
$\displaystyle
\color{red}{y=c_1 -te^{-1}}$

$$\tiny\textsf{Text Book: Elementary Differential Equations and Boundary Value disappearProblems}$$

Hi karush, :)

I think you have done a minor mistake; observe that; $$t\left(\frac{y}{t}\right)'=y'-\frac{y}{t}$$.

Hope you can do it from here :)
 
Ok mucho mahalo
 
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Sudharaka said:
Hi karush, I think you have done a minor mistake; observe that;
$\displaystyle t\left(\frac{y}{t}\right)'=y'-\frac{y}{t}$. Hope you can do it from here
So if
$\displaystyle t\left(\frac{y}{t}\right)'=y'-\frac{y}{t}$
then
$\displaystyle t\left(\frac{y}{t}\right)'=te^{-1}$
or $\displaystyle
\left(\frac{y}{t}\right)'=e^{-1}$
then
$\displaystyle \frac{y}{t}=\int e^{-1} dt=\frac{t}{e}+c_1$
multiply thru by t
$\displaystyle y=\frac{t^2}{e}+c_1t$

kinda maybe hopefully raj
 
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karush said:
So if
$\displaystyle t\left(\frac{y}{t}\right)'=y'-\frac{y}{t}$
then
$\displaystyle t\left(\frac{y}{t}\right)'=te^{-1}$
or $\displaystyle
\left(\frac{y}{t}\right)'=e^{-1}$
then
$\displaystyle \frac{y}{t}=\int e^{-1} dt=\frac{t}{e}+c_1$
multiply thru by t
$\displaystyle y=\frac{t^2}{e}+c_1t$

kinda maybe hopefully raj

Yes that is correct. Well done. :)
 

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