Is the Future of Our Universe Truly Beautiful?

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The discussion centers on the philosophical implications of the universe's future, particularly in relation to Frank Tipler's concept of a closed universe as presented in "The Physics of Immortality." Participants assert that humanity lacks the capability to influence the universe beyond our observable limits, which are either infinite or extraordinarily vast. Consequently, any attempts to alter the universe's trajectory are deemed ineffective, reinforcing the notion that the future remains unchanged and potentially dreary.

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Are we sure that in the next billion years we (whatever “we” are then) won’t change the dreary future of the universe to make it closed because we then, as now, will find it more beautiful? I ask because Frank Tipler’s, The Physics of Immortality, is premised on a closed universe. It would be a shame to waste all that physics and my struggles to understand it.
 
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James William Hall said:
Are we sure that in the next billion years we (whatever “we” are then) won’t change the dreary future of the universe to make it closed
Yes. We have no ability to affect anything outside of our observable universe and the universe is either infinite or staggeringly large. If it's infinite then the amount we can affect is essentially zero and if it's just staggeringly large then the amount we can affect is still essentially zero.
 
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phinds said:
Yes. We have no ability to affect anything outside of our observable universe and the universe is either infinite or staggeringly large. If it's infinite then the amount we can affect is essentially zero and if it's just staggeringly large then the amount we can affect is still essentially zero.
Aside from that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?
 
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Hornbein said:
Aside from that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?
Well, we never saw how it all ended because of an unexpected event.
 

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