A property of solution of ODE y''+p(x)y=0

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the properties of solutions to the ordinary differential equation (ODE) \(y'' + p(x)y = 0\), where \(p(x)\) is continuous and non-positive across the real numbers. Participants are asked to prove that if a solution \(f\) is positive and increasing at a certain point, it remains positive for all subsequent values.

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  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the conditions for the ODE and proposes to prove that \(f(x) > 0\) for all \(x \in [a, \infty)\) given that \(f(a) > 0\) and \(f'(a) > 0\).
  • Another participant reiterates the problem and suggests that since \(p(x) \leq 0\), \(f\) must be a non-decreasing function in the interval \([a, +\infty)\), leading to the conclusion that \(f(x) > 0\) for all \(x\) in that interval.
  • Further clarification is requested by multiple participants, indicating a lack of understanding of the reasoning presented.
  • One participant elaborates on the reasoning by emphasizing that the positivity of \(f\) and its derivative at point \(a\) implies that \(f\) will remain positive for all \(x\) greater than \(a\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus reached in the discussion. While some participants agree on the reasoning that leads to the conclusion about the positivity of \(f\), others express confusion and seek further clarification on the argument.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about the behavior of solutions to the ODE based on the properties of the function \(p(x)\) and the initial conditions provided. The reasoning relies on the interpretation of the implications of \(p(x) \leq 0\) and the initial conditions without resolving the mathematical steps in detail.

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Let $f$ be a solution of the following equation $y''+p(x)y=0$, $p$ is continuous on $\mathbb{R}$ such that $p(x)\leq 0$ for all $x\in\mathbb{R}$. Suppose that $f$ is defined on $[a,+\infty)$, $f(a)>0$, $f'(a)>0$, $a\in\mathbb{R}$ .

Prove $f(x)>0$ for all $x\in[a,\infty)$.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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ipaper said:
Let $f$ be a solution of the following equation $y''+p(x)y=0$, $p$ is continuous on $\mathbb{R}$ such that $p(x)\leq 0$ for all $x\in\mathbb{R}$. Suppose that $f$ is defined on $[a,+\infty)$, $f(a)>0$, $f'(a)>0$, $a\in\mathbb{R}$ .

Prove $f(x)>0$ for all $x\in[a,\infty)$.

Any help would be appreciated.

Welcome on MHB ipaper!...

... writing the ODE as...

$\displaystyle y^{\ ''} = - p(x)\ y\ (1)$

... if $p(x) \le 0, \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$, $y(a)>0$ and $y^{\ '}(a)>0$, then y(x) must be a non decreasing function in $[a, + \infty)$ and therefore it will be $y(x)> 0\ \forall x \in [a, + \infty)$ ...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
Would you please tell me more specifically? I haven't got the picture.
 
ipaper said:
Would you please tell me more specifically? I haven't got the picture.

All right!... writing again the ODE...

$\displaystyle y^{\ ''} = - p(x)\ y\ (1)$

... let's suppose $p(x) \le 0, y(a)>0, y^{\ '}(a)>0$... that means that for x=a y, y' are positive and y'' non negative... that means that for $x= a + \varepsilon$ it will be $y(a + \varepsilon) > y(a)$ and that is true for all $\varepsilon$, so that y will be a non decreasing function and that means that it will be $y(x) > 0$ for all x in $[a, + \infty)$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 

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