A star for every grain of sand.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the conceptual model of representing stars in the universe as grains of sand, exploring the implications of such a model on understanding the size and distribution of stars and galaxies. Participants consider the average distances between stars and how these might translate into a scaled-down version of the universe.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the average distance between grains of sand if they represented stars, seeking a way to conceptualize the universe's size.
  • Another participant notes that stars are not randomly distributed but are grouped into galaxies, providing distances between stars and galaxies to contextualize the model.
  • A participant calculates that if the Sun were scaled down to the size of a grain of sand, the model of the galaxy would be approximately 769,231 km across, equating it to the size of the moon's orbit around Earth.
  • Further, a participant speculates on the possibility of determining the size of the universe and the average distance between stars if they were equally spaced, suggesting a distance of 500 miles in a scaled-down model.
  • There is a proposal to consider scaling down the Sun to the size of an atom and whether this would allow for a real sense of seeing the scaled-down universe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various ideas and calculations regarding the scaling of stars and distances, but no consensus is reached on the exact size of the universe or the average distances in the proposed model.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on approximations and assumptions about the sizes of stars, distances in space, and scaling factors, which may not be universally agreed upon or defined.

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If this is true, could someone please tell me, if a grain of sand represented the size of an average star what would be the average distance between every grain of sand to give a approx size to the universe.
 
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Stars aren't spread randomly throughout the universe - they are grouped together into galaxies.
In the centre of the galaxy stars can be very close together, near us they are around 5-10light years apart, galaxies are about 2-5million light years apart.

A star like the sun is around 1.3million km in diameter, a grain of sand is perhaps 1mm, a light year is around 10million million km
 
So, if the Sun is an average sized star, then a model of our galaxy with each sun the size of a grain of sand would be about 769,231 km across. Or the size of the moon's orbit around the Earth. Alpha Centauri, the closest star to our own would be 33 km from our Sun.
 
Thank you, though is it still possible to know the size of the universe and how many stars(grains of sand) fill it and then if they were equally distant from each other, what that distance would be? *** for a guess, would i be right in saying that the scaled down universe would be size of our galaxy for instance and if every grain of sand were equally distant from each other, that distance would be 500miles.
Also scaling down the sun to the size of an atom that makes up silver, would we be able to see the scaled down universe in a real sense.
 

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