Undergrad An Alternative Variance Formula

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A new expression for the variance of a random variable, given as Var(X)=\frac{1}{2}\int\int (x-y)^2dF(x)dF(y), has been derived, though its practical utility is questioned due to its complexity compared to the standard formula. The standard variance formula, Var(X) = \int {X^2}dF - (\int X dF)^2, is preferred for its convenience. The derived formula may have implications for testing the independence of random samples, as it incorporates comparisons between different samples. Additionally, there is speculation about the existence of a cubic expression that could relate to the third moment of the distribution. Overall, the discussion highlights both the novelty of the derived formula and the need for further exploration of its applications in statistics.
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Interesting formula for variance
I derived (trivially) an expression for the variance of a random variable (which I had never noticed before). Let ##X## be a random variable with cdf ##F(x)## then (assuming finite second moment). ##Var(X)=\frac{1}{2}\int\int (x-y)^2dF(x)dF(y)##.

Is this expression of any use?
 
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It looks so much more complicated than other equations that I can't think of a use for it.
This seems much more convenient: ##Var(X) = \int {X^2}dF - (\int X dF)^2##

PS. I have not taken time to verify your formula. I do not see it immediately.
 
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It looks so much more complicated than other equations that I can't think of a use for it.
This seems much more convenient: ##Var(X) = \int {X^2}dF - (\int X dF)^2##

PS. I have not taken time to verify your formula. I do not see it immediately.
##(x-y)^2=x^2+y^2-2xy## gives the usual formula.
 
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I think it's pretty neat.
 
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Is this expression of any use?

The focus in practical statistics is on estimators of populatiom parameters and sample statistics rather than the population parameters themselves. Since the formula relies on the model that we are taking independent random samples, perhaps it can motivate a statistic to test whether we actually have independent random samples. The term ##(x-y)## comparing different samples suggests the result would be influenced by any correlations. Perhaps there are already well-known statistics that we can understand to be motivated by the formula.
 
Is there a natural cubic expression to follow up with? You have ##xF(x)## for expected values, ##\frac{1}{2}(x-y)^2F(x)F(y)## for variance, seems like there should be a nice ##\frac{1}{6}P(x,y,z)F(x)F(y)F(z)## term for some cubic polynomial P to calculate a meaningful third moment term.
 
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