An Astoundingly BAD Physics News Report

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The discussion centers around a CNN news report that participants criticize for containing numerous factual errors related to the physics of lasers and x-rays. The conversation explores the implications of the report's claims, the historical context of terminology, and the quality of science journalism.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the CNN report incorrectly suggests that x-rays and lasers are fundamentally different, noting that x-rays can indeed be produced as lasers.
  • Others express concern over the overall quality of the article, criticizing both its scientific inaccuracies and its writing style.
  • A participant mentions that historically, "light" has referred primarily to the visible spectrum, while others argue that it should encompass all electromagnetic radiation.
  • Some participants question the credibility of CNN's science reporting, referencing the firing of dedicated science correspondents as a potential reason for the decline in quality.
  • One participant highlights a specific error in the article regarding the number of photons used to create laser beams, suggesting that the author lacks a fundamental understanding of laser physics.
  • Another participant proposes that the article would be less misleading if it specified the context of using lasers for medical imaging of bones.
  • Several participants share links to alternative sources that provide more accurate coverage of the scientific developments discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the CNN report is flawed and poorly written, but there is disagreement regarding the interpretation of specific claims made in the article and the implications of those claims.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion involves various interpretations of terminology and the historical context of scientific language, which may influence the understanding of the report's claims.

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CNN has dropped to a new low in terms of very bad science news reporting. This news report is so bad, and has so many factual errors in it, one simply should not pay any attention to it completely.

http://lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/07/sharp-as-a-laser/

Note that even the topic is glaringly wrong. Saying that x-ray might replace a laser implies that these are two different things. A "laser" is simply a coherent beam of EM radiation. X-ray is an EM radiation. This means that X-ray isn't excluded from becoming a laser. And that is what has been accomplished at SLAC's LCLS - an x-ray laser!

If you want to read a better coverage of this work, read this:

http://www.rdmag.com/News/2012/06/M...fast-Lasers-To-Create-Tabletop-X-Ray-Devices/

Moral of the story: never pay any attention to science reports out of CNN from now on.

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ZapperZ said:
Moral of the story: never pay any attention to science reports out of CNN from now on.
Yikes.
 
Well, historically "light" has referred to the visible portion of the EM spectrum, radio waves, x-rays etc... historically weren't referred to as light. I personally use the word "light" to be synonymous with "electromagnetic radiation" but even today I see some people (including physicists, typically not in America though) make that distinction.

That article however, is appalling. Even ignoring the terrible physics, the grammar and structure reads what a 6th grader might right for a class report.
 
Didn't CNN actually fire their dedicated science correspondents a few years back?

Ah yes, here we go: http://www.ajc.com/services/content/business/stories/2008/12/04/cnn.html
 
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Jack21222 said:
Didn't CNN actually fire their dedicated science correspondents a few years back?

Ah yes, here we go: http://www.ajc.com/services/content/business/stories/2008/12/04/cnn.html

Yup, they did. One of the comments posted also mentioned this.

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I thought the little insect that represented either an atom or a photon (it wasn't clear which) was hilarious. My gosh it is shameful that this kind of awful article is (1) written and (2) allowed into print on a so-called reputable news source.
 
Note that even the topic is glaringly wrong. Saying that x-ray might replace a laser implies that these are two different things. A "laser" is simply a coherent beam of EM radiation. X-ray is an EM radiation. This means that X-ray isn't excluded from becoming a laser. And that is what has been accomplished at SLAC's LCLS - an x-ray laser!
I don't really see a problem with this. It says "Laser beam may one day replace X-rays." They're referring to the traditional x-ray process of having your bones photographed. Technically, you're still getting x-rayed, but with a laser instead of the traditional way.
 
If they added something like "for medical imaging of bones" after the title I think would be more correct or at least less wrong.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
I don't really see a problem with this. It says "Laser beam may one day replace X-rays." They're referring to the traditional x-ray process of having your bones photographed. Technically, you're still getting x-rayed, but with a laser instead of the traditional way.

But "x-ray" doesn't just refer to medical procedure, i.e. it is not a verb.

This is still a report on a science result. It should be accurate.

Zz.
 
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oh dear :3
 
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I think you guys are being too kind with all of the other billion errors like the following paragraph

"Based on the hypothosesis of Dr. Tenio Popmintchev, researchers have created a laser beam by adding 5,000 photons together. Previously, two photons were typically used to create laser beams. This is the first time so many photons have been successfully added together."

Who-ever wrote this clearly doesn't know how a LASER works. Can anybody name a LASER, a real LASER, that only uses 2 photons, i can't think of one.

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According to the National Science Foundation one in five Americans still believes the sun revolves around the earth. That's not something caused by bad mass media coverage, but it does give some idea of what qualifies these days as a "reputable" news source.

 
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