Apple Juice : As American As Anthing Else Made In China

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around concerns regarding the sourcing of apple juice, particularly the prevalence of concentrate imported from China. Participants explore issues related to food safety, quality, and the implications of relying on foreign imports for a product commonly perceived as American. The conversation touches on broader themes of food regulation and public perception of imported goods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration over the difficulty of finding apple juice that does not come from Chinese concentrate, suggesting that many consumers may be unaware of this sourcing.
  • Another participant questions the negative perception of Chinese food imports, asking why Brazilian oranges are not similarly scrutinized.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of Chinese apples, including inquiries about growth stimulants and pesticides used in their cultivation.
  • References are made to past food safety scandals, such as the "exploding watermelons" incident, to illustrate distrust in Chinese food products.
  • A participant mentions that the FDA has agreements with Chinese regulatory bodies to ensure the safety of juice processing, but questions remain about the agricultural practices in China.
  • Concerns about the overuse of pesticides in Chinese agriculture are highlighted, with a participant sharing a personal anecdote about growing garlic locally as a safer alternative.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the safety and quality of apple juice sourced from China. There are multiple competing views regarding the reliability of food imports and the effectiveness of regulatory measures in ensuring safety.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific agricultural practices in China and the implications of regulatory agreements on food safety. The discussion reflects a broader skepticism towards imported food products, particularly from regions with a history of food safety issues.

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If there's one thing that gets me juiced ( there's actually a lot of things that do) it's that it's really hard to get apple juice anymore that doesn't come from concentrate shipped from China. All the major brands and most store brands use Chinese concentrate to make what I think most people would assume is an American drink.

http://www.walletpop.com/2009/03/12/apple-juice-as-american-as-anything-else-made-in-china/

I just happened to notice the words: Concentrate China in fine print on the bottle that I keep my humming bird nectar in. It is not on the paper label it is stamped in black letters close to the top of the plastic bottle. The link is the first hit I found on google.
 
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A few media scares about the unhealthy quality of food from China makes the article's weariness to accept Chinese food imports expected. But what is wrong with Brazilian oranges?
 
tedbradly said:
A few media scares about the unhealthy quality of food from China makes the article's weariness to accept Chinese food imports expected. But what is wrong with Brazilian oranges?

Oranges and apples. I wish I had used a link that didn't mention the Brazilian oranges. So far as I know we haven't had any problems with imports from Brazil.

What growth stimulants were used on the Chinese apples?, What pesticides?
 
It made me think of the exploding watermelons.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110517/ap_on_fe_st/as_china_exploding_watermelons
 
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yeah I don't trust it. over the years I've seen too many chinese companies do whatever it takes to make a buck over the welfare of everything else.
 
Apparently the FDA has an Agreement with the equivalent of the Chinese FDA to insure the safety of how the juice is processed. What about how the apples are grown?
When it comes to concerns specific to Chinese imports, it is important to know that American apple juice companies purchase exclusively from Chinese processors who are certified for safety by FDA. FDA has an agreement with China´s Certification and Accreditation Administration to ensure that these certified facilities comply with U.S. regulations in making juice concentrate.

Additionally, juices are subject to a regulatory protection requirement that requires every juice processing facility to identify, control and document all critical steps of processing where contamination potentially could occur. This regulation also extends to foreign food processing facilities.

http://www.usapple.org/AppleJuiceSafety.html
 
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I saw garlic in the grocery labeled from China. I recall hearing a http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=121125739" on NPR about money some young Chinese entrepreneurs made buying stockpiles of garlic using government loans and sitting on it until market goes high, then flip it and make a bundle $$$.

China also has some serious issues regarding http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Issue/Pn34/pn34p18.htm" overuse (their own Silent Spring :bugeye: )..
That's another concern to think about when you drink that apple juice from concentrate.

I am glad we have our own garlic in the garden.
 
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