Are Chinese Mothers Better at Preparing Kids for Ivy League Admissions?

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The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of Chinese mothers in preparing their children for Ivy League admissions, referencing cultural practices and personal experiences. It touches on themes of parenting styles, community influence, and societal expectations, with a focus on competitive academic environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that the purpose of piano lessons for Chinese children is to enhance their appeal for Ivy League admissions.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the value of the discussion, citing the complexity of the issue and the lack of a straightforward answer.
  • A participant shares personal observations, noting that many Chinese students they know have attended prestigious universities, attributing this to peer pressure from their community rather than solely to parental influence.
  • Several participants point out that the topic has been discussed previously, suggesting that the current thread may not offer new insights.
  • A participant references a tragic incident involving a Chinese girl and her mother, suggesting that extreme parental pressure can have dire consequences, although this point is anecdotal and not universally applicable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the influence of Chinese mothers in academic success, with some agreeing on the cultural pressures involved, while others question the validity of the claims and the relevance of the discussion. No consensus is reached on the effectiveness of these parenting styles.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference previous discussions on the same topic, indicating a potential lack of novelty in the current thread. The complexity of cultural influences on education and parenting is acknowledged but remains unresolved.

Chinese Mothers Are Superior (in raising children to competitive Harvard applicants)

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Chinese Mothers Are Superior (in raising children to competitive Harvard applicants)


Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior

reading the article (I have not read the book)

it is clear that the whole point of piano lessons is to make their daughters look good for Harvard/Stanford/Ivy League admissions.

Chinese Mothers Are Superior (in raising children to competitive Harvard applicants)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...528698754.html

Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do:
 
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Your link doesn't work, until I read the article I can't judge if this thread has any value. Please correct your link.
 


This is far too complex an issue, and too relative to be open to a yes/no in this case. No vote.
 


from personal experience I agree - 90% of all the chinese kids I know went to really good unis... its not so much the mothers as the peer pressure from the close-knit community.
 


Hang on, didn't we have this exact same topic a little while back?

In fact, from the "Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do:" snippet in the OP, it's exactly the same article.

We pronounced it BS once, the only difference is that they've introduced uni's into this post.
 


jarednjames said:
Hang on, didn't we have this exact same topic a little while back?

In fact, from the "Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do:" snippet in the OP, it's exactly the same article.

We pronounced it BS once, the only difference is that they've introduced uni's into this post.

Yeah... that does ring a bell.
 


I'm sure of it, in the original article there was a picture of the family with the two girls playing a piano or something.

Will just have to wait for the right link to see if it's the same one.
 


jarednjames said:
I'm sure of it, in the original article there was a picture of the family with the two girls playing a piano or something.

Will just have to wait for the right link to see if it's the same one.

I'm not betting against you! :wink:

I will however take a cut of any action if someone else does... :rolleyes:
 
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My daughter knew this chinses girl, pushed to murder by her overbearing Chinese mother.

"It made me feel so childish, but I suppose that's really what all parents want," the 16-year-old honour student from Overland Park, Kansas, wrote.

"I've been trying... to make them smile, make them feel better, take Esmie off their list of worries and concerns."

Ten days later, she stabbed her mother to death with a knife in an incident that apparently took the mother and daughter through several rooms of their home.

The killing stunned the comfortable middle-class, Middle American community where the Tseng family lived.

Esmie was ranked among the best classical pianists of her age in the state. She got top marks in school. She competed in athletic meetings and was on the debating team.
Read on... She was a sweet kid. Just terrible how she was treated by her parents.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4967340.stm
 
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jarednjames said:
Hang on, didn't we have this exact same topic a little while back?

In fact, from the "Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do:" snippet in the OP, it's exactly the same article.

We pronounced it BS once, the only difference is that they've introduced uni's into this post.
I thought so, thanks.
 

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