Are Cuba and the US equal when it comes to justice systems?

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The discussion centers around the legacy of Fidel Castro following his death and the implications for justice systems in Cuba and the United States. Participants explore the perceptions of Castro as a dictator and the reactions from various political leaders, while questioning the comparisons between the two countries' justice systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe Castro as a brutal dictator responsible for jailing and disappearing many people, suggesting that the world is better without him.
  • Others note the mixed reactions to Castro's death from political leaders, particularly criticizing Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau's remarks as overly favorable.
  • A few participants highlight the phenomenon of "t-shirt activism," questioning the sincerity and thoughtfulness of those who celebrate Castro.
  • There is a suggestion that the US also engages in similar practices of disappearing people, raising questions about the moral equivalence of the justice systems in Cuba and the US.
  • Some comments reference the mocking social media responses to Trudeau's eulogies, indicating a broader critique of how dictators are remembered.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions about Castro's legacy and the appropriateness of the accolades he received, indicating that multiple competing views remain. The discussion about the justice systems of Cuba and the US is unresolved, with differing perspectives on their similarities and differences.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the implications of their comparisons and the definitions of justice systems, which may depend on various assumptions and perspectives.

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Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro has died at age 90, according to Cuban state media, confirms NPR.

Castro, who took power in the Cuban revolution in 1959, led his country for nearly 50 years.

After undergoing intestinal surgery, Castro had ceded power in July 2006, to his younger brother Raul, who announced his death late Friday on Cuban state television.

Under Fidel Castro's direction, Cuba became the one and only communist state in the Western Hemisphere...
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/26/66315...90?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=storiesfromnpr
 
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There was this classic SW radio ad long ago.
castro.jpg

http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=254935
 
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Castro was a brutal dictator who jailed and disappeared too many people. The world is a better place without him. And the accolades keep on coming. What is wrong with this world?
 
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Sometimes fake news is funny.

The Canada connection.
http://www.northcrane.com/2016/11/27/video-comparison-is-canadas-prime-minister-related-to-fidel-castro-pol-thinks-so/
 
Kevin McHugh said:
... And the accolades keep on coming. What is wrong with this world?
Maybe I haven't been paying enough attention, but I haven't seen much. Just a little bit of t-shirt activism (copyright: me). I don't think such people have thought-through what they are wearing and shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
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The Twilight Zone "Castro' episode.
http://putlockers.ch/watch-the-twilight-zone-tvshow-season-3-episode-6-online-free-putlocker.html
 
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russ_watters said:
Maybe I haven't been paying enough attention, but I haven't seen much. Just a little bit of t-shirt activism (copyright: me). I don't think such people have thought-through what they are wearing and shouldn't be taken seriously.
I think the objection is to the fawning dictator-eulogies from some democratically elected political leaders who should know better, most notably Canada's Trudeau, UK's Jeremy Corbyn, EU President Juncker, Ireland's http://www.president.ie/en/media-library/news-releases/statement-by-president-michael-d.-higgins-on-the-death-of-fidel-castro . Trudeau's words lead the pack of the silly, and his phrase "Cuba's longest serving President" seems to imagine half a century of elections that never happened. Trudeau's comments inspired a mocking twitter channel, 'TrudeaEulogies', such as:

Remember Sauron.
Industrialized Morder and brought full employment to millions of hard working Orcs. So he made a few mistakes. Let's not dwell on that.
 
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Kevin McHugh said:
Castro was a brutal dictator who jailed and disappeared too many people. The world is a better place without him. And the accolades keep on coming. What is wrong with this world?

People love revolutionaries. I also don't think he had a corner on the disappearing people market, even the US does that sort of thing.

mheslep said:
Trudeau's comments inspired a mocking twitter channel, 'TrudeaEulogies', such as:

Today we mourn Jabba the Hutt, a community organizer, dedicated to the economic revitalization of the outer-rim territories. #TrudeaEulogies

:cry:
 
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Student100 said:
People love revolutionaries.
Usually not so much if the revolution turns the country into a giant gulag.

I also don't think he had a corner on the disappearing people market, even the US does that sort of thing.
What sort of thing? You think Cuba and the US are more or less the same thing with respect to justice systems?
 

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