Are There Laws Governing the Passage of Time?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of time and whether there are specific laws that govern its passage. Participants explore theoretical frameworks, particularly in relation to the big bang and the implications of relativity on the nature of time.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether there are laws governing the passage of time, suggesting that there should be laws similar to those that explain fundamental forces.
  • Another participant references Einstein's theories of relativity, implying that there are multiple theories addressing the nature of time.
  • A different participant expresses a desire for a definitive law regarding the passage of time, distinguishing this from speculative theories related to the universe's early moments.
  • One participant proposes that relativity suggests time may not be fundamental, advocating for a view that considers time as an effect of rates of movement, with implications for concepts like time travel.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the existence of laws governing time, with multiple competing views presented regarding the nature of time and its relationship to physical laws.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of time, the implications of relativity, and the definitions of fundamental concepts, which remain unresolved.

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Has anyone discovered the laws governing or explaining the passage of Time? Shouldn't there be laws for that as well? In addition to the laws that explain the fundamental forces and how they interact, shouldn't there be laws that govern/explain how the universe got from the big bang to here?
 
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Have you read up on Einstein's theories of Relativity?

There are lots of theories describing the things you are asking about.
 
I thought the general theory of relativity describes gravity. I want to know how the passage of time is explained. I am talking about a law here and not speculative theories that explain how the universe would have been at the big bang and then they go onto explain what happened after a Planck time etc. What governs the passage of time?
 
My feeling is that what relativity did to time means we must give up time as fundamental and instead think of frequencies, or rhythm. Nature operates through rates of movements with the limit being the speed of forces (of light).

Time is the effect of the accumulation of those rates. Higher speeds mean higher rates so "more" time. In fact, light has so much time on its hands that the whole universe passes through 0 time for light.

Time travel may be impossible not because of the known paradoxes but because there are no negative frequencies, alike with there is no negative mass but only zero mass.
 

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