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Estimate the change in your tax liability based on Obama's tax plan.
http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/
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The discussion revolves around the implications of Obama's tax plan and its effects on different taxpayers, particularly focusing on the fairness of tax cuts for married versus single individuals. Participants explore various tax calculators and express their opinions on the reliability of these tools, as well as the broader impact of tax policies on personal finances.
Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the fairness of the tax plan or the reliability of the calculators. Disagreement exists regarding the implications of the tax cuts for different demographics.
Participants highlight limitations in the assumptions made by tax calculators and the potential disconnect between reported tax benefits and actual financial situations.
Evo said:I went to the other sites it referred to and they made no sense. They kept increasing my net income before taxes and there's a list of "assumptions" it says it's basing the figures on, none of which apply to me.
G01 said:A single person with a grad student income of $25,000 (at best) will get $456.11 more than they would under John McCain.
Either way I'll still be poor, but that is a big difference.
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I'm getting the same amount on this one.B. Elliott said:Strange. This tax calculator shows a different amount...
http://taxcut.barackobama.com/
I wonder which one to trust?
Evo said:I'm getting the same amount on this one.
Moonbear said:I doubted the likelihood that it would be a reliable source (it sounded biased toward Obama), but lo and behold, it told me exactly what I suspected...not enough difference to care.It never matters who is in office, single, successful people always get screwed. Playing with the numbers, I put in double the household income and saw what the numbers would be if I was married...it's a HUGE tax cut under Obama's plan...even with no children. How is that fair? If I had a husband who made exactly the same as me, together, we'd stand to get nearly 10 times as much of a tax cut married than if we were single! That's just penalizing single people. What's worse, the tax break would be better for being married with no children than it would be to be single with a kid! I can understand tax breaks when you have dependent children you need to support off the same salary, but I don't understand them just for being lucky to meet someone to get married.
B. Elliott said:I wonder which one to trust?
turbo-1 said:Could McCain have pulled off this unscripted, unprompted exposition of his tax policies? AND make the numbers add up? I think not.
Moonbear said:I doubted the likelihood that it would be a reliable source (it sounded biased toward Obama), but lo and behold, it told me exactly what I suspected...not enough difference to care.It never matters who is in office, single, successful people always get screwed. Playing with the numbers, I put in double the household income and saw what the numbers would be if I was married...it's a HUGE tax cut under Obama's plan...even with no children. How is that fair? If I had a husband who made exactly the same as me, together, we'd stand to get nearly 10 times as much of a tax cut married than if we were single! That's just penalizing single people.