Atoms: Do They Die & Where Does It Lead?

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The discussion centers around the nature of atoms, particularly whether they can "die" and the implications of their behavior, including concepts like entropy, bonding, nuclear decay, and the existence of antimatter. The scope includes theoretical and conceptual aspects of atomic behavior and interactions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the meaning of "die" in relation to atoms and propose that atoms remain in their current state unless subjected to extreme conditions.
  • One participant mentions proton decay as a hypothetical phenomenon that has not been observed.
  • Another participant explains that atoms can bond with other atoms to form molecules, which alters their original state.
  • Nuclear decay and fusion are discussed as processes that can change the identity of an atom, with nuclear decay involving the transformation of particles in the nucleus.
  • There is mention of antimatter, with some participants asserting its existence and the implications of matter-antimatter interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the concept of atomic "death," with some asserting that atoms do not die in a conventional sense, while others explore various processes that can change their state. The discussion includes competing ideas about the nature of atoms and their interactions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about atomic behavior and the conditions under which changes occur, such as extreme environments or interactions with antimatter. There are unresolved aspects regarding the implications of these processes and the hypothetical nature of certain phenomena like proton decay.

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do they just gon spinning? where does it all lead up to? entropy? or someyhing else?
 
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What do you mean by "die?"

There's no reason for them to split apart at all, they should remain in their current state. Electrons, due to the nature of Quantum Mechanics, should remain in their respective orbits, and the nucleus should stay bound, unless exposed to extreme conditions, such as the core of a star, where they fuse together.

Some radioactive isotopes decay into different kinds of atoms, too.
 
there's something call proton decay, but it is currently hypothetical and has never been observed
 
Atoms cannot "die" in the normal sense. However I expect you already knew this but didn't know how to word the question. So, what CAN happen to the atom? The most common thing is that it bonds with another atom, or several, to form a molecule by sharing, borrowing, or giving up electrons. Since electrons are considered part of the atom, it isn't the same as it used to be. We also have nuclear decay, where particles in the nucleus are transformed into other particles, ejected completely out, or the nucleus splits into large pieces, with each piece forming a new atom of a different element. Finally there is nuclear fusion where the nuclei of two atoms fuses together to form another one of a different element.
 
Atoms are matter, and made of subatomic particles.

Anti-matter composed of particles of opposite charge is considered possible.

Adding matter to anti-matter would convert the matter (and equivalent anti-matter) to energy.
 
Yngvi said:
Anti-matter composed of particles of opposite charge is considered possible.

Not only is it considered possible, it has been observed. We make antimatter and observe it all the time.
 

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