Autistic Ballerina Got 'Sprayed' on TV Show, Hurtful & Harmful?

[bagasme]

Hello all,

In middle 2013 I used to watch a talent show named Don't Stop Me Now. This show selected random acts from near stage. Then they had to survive for 100 seconds from voters in the production house. If they failed to survive, random executors would punished them. If they survived, they would perform again for $1000.

In an episode, an autistic ballerina, Natasha, selected to perform her ballet number. However, once she was about to leap, red buzzer rang and two executors pretended to be firefighters sprayed extinguisher to her face and body.

Fortunately, the extinguisher was the fake (and safe) one. What would happen if real extinguisher was used instead (with chemicals like sodium bicarbonate, potassium chloride, and alcohol foams etc.) to execute her? And what the consequences for the production house and TV station that aired the show?

At the time of the accident, the host said: "How dare you two, when the others are helping autistics like her (Natasha) but you (the executors) cruel to her instead, hope you will get sin for this!".

Does offensives and cruelty like above (not necessarily bullying) toward autistics acceptable?

FYI: The voters in this case are from a mid-tier university. They may directly on indirectly responsible for this accident.

Bagas

 

[jbriggs444]

One should take responsibility for one's own actions. Watching the show condoned it. Producers will only do such things if they can make a buck by doing so.

 

[bagasme]

One should take responsibility for one's own actions. Watching the show condoned it. Producers will only do such things if they can make a buck by doing so.

In this case, the voters triggered the executors to sprayed the ballerina using the fake extinguisher. But what if the real extinguisher was used instead? Would be any lawsuits?

 

[russ_watters]

In this case, the voters triggered the executors to sprayed the ballerina using the fake extinguisher.

Presumably she signed up for the contest in full knowledge of its nature?

But what if the real extinguisher was used instead? Would be any lawsuits?

Could be. Pretty useless to speculate.

 

[bagasme]

Presumably she signed up for the contest in full knowledge of its nature?Could be. Pretty useless to speculate.

Not what I mean. Please see my original post above.

 

[jbriggs444]

Not what I mean. Please see my original post above.

There are two questions in that original post. There are two scenarios in the original post. Which of the scenarios and which of the questions are we supposed to be discussing?

 

[bagasme]

There are two questions in that original post. There are two scenarios in the original post. Which of the scenarios and which of the questions are we supposed to be discussing?

My questions:

1. What will happen if instead of fake extinguisher, the 'executors' sprayed the ballerina by real extinguisher?
2. Does offensives toward autistics hurt the autistics themselves?

Note that we are discussing single scenario on a TV show.

 

[jbriggs444]

My questions:

1. What will happen if instead of fake extinguisher, the 'executors' sprayed the ballerina by real extinguisher?
2. Does offensives toward autistics hurt the autistics themselves?

Note that we are discussing single scenario on a TV show.

We are discussing two scenarios. One real (fake extinguisher) and one hypothetical (real extinguisher).

 

[bagasme]

We are discussing two scenarios. One real (fake extinguisher) and one hypothetical (real extinguisher).

I mean I'm asking for real extinguisher scenario one (hypothetical), not the fake extinguisher one.

 

[jbriggs444]

Does spraying an autistic with a real fire extinguisher hurt the autistic? Yes. They are real people.

 

[bagasme]

Does spraying an autistic with a real fire extinguisher hurt the autistic? Yes. They are real people.

And dangerous to their health?

 

[jbriggs444]

Google is your friend. Five seconds of careful research yields:

https://eteba.org/wp-content/upload...2016-Health-Hazards-of-Fire-Extinguishers.pdf

 

[bagasme]

Google is your friend. Five seconds of careful research yields:

https://eteba.org/wp-content/upload...2016-Health-Hazards-of-Fire-Extinguishers.pdf

From PoisonControl:

Many fire extinguishers release a fine powder. The most common is the multipurpose dry chemical type, which is used for Class A, B, and C fires. These contain monoammonium phosphate, which comes out as a yellow powder. The yellow color helps to distinguish it from other non-multipurpose extinguishers. Ordinary dry chemical extinguishers are used for Class B and C fires only. They often contain sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), which comes out as a white powder.Inhalation of monoammonium phosphate and sodium bicarbonate can cause mild irritation to the nose, throat, and lungs and results in symptoms like shortness of breath and coughing. Dizziness and headache are also possible. These symptoms usually resolve quickly with fresh air. Ongoing minor irritation often improves after a steam treatment, such as a steamy shower. People with lung conditions like asthma or someone deliberately sprayed at close range can have more serious respiratory effects and might need medical attention. Contact of these powders with the eyes, nose, throat, and skin can cause irritation, which should improve after rinsing the exposed area. Deliberate inhalation or ingestion can cause serious symptoms such as pneumonia, seizures, irregular heartbeat, and kidney failure. People with more than mild symptoms or anyone with a deliberate exposure should be managed in a healthcare facility.Carbon dioxide (CO2) fire extinguishers are used for Class B and C fires. They emit pressurized CO2 gas, which smothers the fire by blocking the oxygen that the fire needs. Unlike the dry chemical types, this nonflammable gas quickly evaporates leaving nothing behind. Because the gas is under pressure, pieces of dry ice (solid CO2) might be emitted. CO2 is not to be confused with carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide is a very toxic gas that is generated by burning fuels and can be produced by faulty gas appliances, car exhaust, and fires. CO2 is a naturally occurring gas and is part of the air we breathe. CO2 is also found in carbonated beverages. Toxicity from inhaled CO2 only occurs with very high concentrations. In most situations, there is enough oxygen in the area to prevent toxicity. However, toxicity can occur if a CO2 extinguisher is used in a small, poorly ventilated area. Inhalation of concentrated CO2 causes the same symptoms as not having enough oxygen, including difficulty breathing, dizziness, and loss of consciousness. Anyone exposed to concentrated CO2 should seek fresh air immediately. Medical attention would be needed for effects that do not resolve quickly or for anyone who loses consciousness. Direct contact of the skin with the pressurized CO2 can cause frostbite. The damage to the skin can be limited to mild redness, but blisters are also possible. Damage to the eyes can also occur with direct exposure.

If real extinguishers was used, the TV show would be like Russian Roulette, risking the acts' life for the entertainment.

 

[256bits]

Does offensives toward autistics hurt the autistics themselves?

If a person, autistic or not, was walking down a street and someone came up and sprayed them with a fire extinguisher, then that could be considered socially unacceptable. The sprayed person would I think feel somewhat bewildered and victimized and would possibly consider pursuing some legal action against the perpetrator.
If a person, autistic or not, signs up for a TV show, they usually would be presented with a contract of some sort outlying the rules, non disclosure, yada yadda, the case may be. So for this TV show if the contestants signed off on being humiliated and the loss of their dignity in view of 'millions' of viewers for a minimal prize, then that is their choice for getting their kick in life and 15 minutes of fame.
As long as the producers show some diligence in the undertaking of the program so that no one is hurt more than just their pride.

At the time of the accident, the host said: "How dare you two, when the others are helping autistics like her (Natasha) but you (the executors) cruel to her instead, hope you will get sin for this!"

You don't understand "poking the fire" to get viewers to watch these kinds of shows?
Don't take some of that stuff too seriously.
Replace the word "autistic" with any other word that can group people as being categorized as being marginalized, and you have 100% of the population of the planet earth. If you ask anybody anywhere they say that they want to be treated as a person regardless, and have equal opportunity to participate.
Unfortunately that doesn't happen so often.
The host seems to be perpetuating the stereotype that the autistic is something less than a full person for the audience to eat up.
So read post @2 once more.