Balancing a complex Chemical equation

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The discussion revolves around balancing a complex chemical equation involving the reaction of C6H5OCl and NO3- to produce N2, Cl-, CO2, and H2O. Participants explore various methods for balancing the equation, including redox approaches and the role of acids in the reaction.

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Main Points Raised

  • The initial attempt at balancing the equation involves adjusting coefficients for carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen, leading to a proposed equation that still has unbalanced charges.
  • One participant suggests that the reaction is a redox reaction and recommends using methods such as half-reactions or algebraic approaches for balancing.
  • Another participant proposes that the NO3- may originate from an acid added to the organic compound.
  • There is a clarification that NO3- is not a radical but an ion resulting from nitric acid dissociation.
  • Some participants speculate that H+ ions may also come from the dissociation of nitric acid.
  • It is mentioned that the reaction could potentially be balanced using HNO3 as a reactant and HCl as a product.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the approach to balancing the equation and the role of nitric acid, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the best method or final balanced equation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding charge balance in the proposed equations and the specific contributions of acids in the reaction, which may affect the balancing process.

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Homework Statement


Balance the following Chemistry equation, you are allowed to add H{+} and H2O where needed
Given
C6H5OCl + NO3- --> N2 + Cl- + CO2

2. The attempt at a solution
Balance the carbon first:
C6H5OCl + NO3- --> N2 + Cl- + 6CO2

Increase Oxygen O in NO3{-} to compensate; also increase N on RHS
C6H5OCl + 4NO3- --> 2N2 + Cl- + 6CO2

Bring out the H{+} and O{2-} on RHS
C6H5OCl + 4NO3- --> 2N2 + Cl- + 6CO2 + H2O + 3H+

Multiply both sides by 2
2C6H5OCl + 8NO3- --> 4N2 + 2Cl- + 12CO2 + 2H2O + 6H+

Compensate for 6H{+} on RHS by increasing NO3 by 1 to form H2O on RHS
2C6H5OCl + 9NO3- --> 4N2 + 2Cl- + 12CO2 + 5H2O + N3-

At this point I would assume that H{+} Is required on the LHS to give N2 and H2O on RHS
2C6H5OCl + 10NO3- + 2H+ --> 5N2 + 2Cl- + 12CO2 + 6H2O

Which is looking pretty good so far-- except the charges on either side are not balanced. And this would be the point where I am stuck. Was there supposed to be a different approach to this? I appreciate your time. Thank you.
 
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This is a redox reaction and these are usually difficult to balance by inspection. Try either one of the redox methods (half reactions or oxidation numbers), or use algebraic approach. All these are described here: balancing and stoichiometry.
 
Perhaps the NO3 radical comes from an acid which is added to the other organic compound.
 
Excellent, I think this would be very helpful. Thank you very much.

@SteamKing: HNO3 could very well be the said acid but I gather that it isn't of much interest at the moment?
 
NO3- is not a radical, just an ion, product of the nitric acid dissociation.
 
And maybe some of the H+ ions come from said nitric acid dissociation?
 
Yes. And it is also possible to balance the reaction using HNO3 as a reactant and HCl as a product.
 

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