Biographies, History, Philosophy of Physics

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The discussion centers on the biographies, history, and philosophy of physicists, with participants sharing various articles and reflections on lesser-known figures in the field. The scope includes historical accounts, personal reflections, and contributions to the philosophy of physics, as well as connections to broader societal issues.

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  • Some participants highlight Berta Karlik's contributions to physics and her role in pioneering women's academic careers in Austria, expressing regret over her relative obscurity.
  • Others note the tendency for prominent physicists to overshadow lesser-known figures, emphasizing the importance of recognizing all contributions to the field.
  • Several participants share links to biographies and reflections on various physicists, including Lars Brink and Titus Pankey, discussing their significance and achievements.
  • One participant mentions the historical context of mathematics in ancient India, exploring its evolution and limitations.
  • There are references to various archives and resources for exploring the history of physics and mathematics, including oral histories and biographical databases.
  • Some participants express a desire to keep the discussion focused on serious academic contributions while avoiding metaphysical debates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of discussing lesser-known physicists and their contributions, but there is no consensus on specific figures or the direction of the discussion. Multiple competing views on the relevance of certain topics and figures remain present.

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Some contributions reference articles that may not be widely known or accessible, and there is an acknowledgment of the limitations in discussing figures who may not have received significant recognition in mainstream narratives.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying the history and philosophy of physics, as well as individuals looking to explore the contributions of lesser-known scientists in the field.

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Yes. The Manhattan Project ran from 1942 to 1946. Rutherford died in 1937 and Haber in 1934, so I honestly don't know how I managed to mess up that bad. I think the moral, or rather hypocrisy, of the, now firmly established apocryphal story speaks to me in some way. Rutherford may have refused to shake Haber's hand but if so it cannot have had much, if anything at all, to do with atomic bombs.

I've got to erase it from my brain because it makes little to no sense, and I'm embarrassing myself.

Sorry.
 
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sbrothy said:
Yes. The Manhattan Project ran from 1942 to 1946. Rutherford died in 1937 and Haber in 1934, so I honestly don't know how I managed to mess up that bad. I think the moral, or rather hypocrisy, of the, now firmly established apocryphal story speaks to me in some way. Rutherford may have refused to shake Haber's hand but if so it cannot have had much, if anything at all, to do with atomic bombs.

I've got to erase it from my brain because it makes little to no sense, and I'm embarrassing myself.

Sorry.
Don't be so hard on yourself we all do mistakes. I find much worse inaccuracies every day just looking at social media.
 
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  • #273
Some history behind the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Ontario.
(I visited PI when it was just the brownstone on King and Dupont (Google Maps) [in the video at &t=2m21s] to visit my advisor who was spending a sabbatical there. I've never been to the current site (Google Maps).)

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(2026) Perimeter: Building Canada’s theoretical physics institute

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What does it take to build a world-class physics institute from scratch?

Perimeter Institute is a world-leading center for theoretical physics, dedicated to unraveling the deepest mysteries of the universe. Through groundbreaking research, innovative training programs, and inspiring outreach initiatives, we bring together brilliant minds from around the globe to explore space, time, matter, and beyond.

Founded with the vision of fostering collaboration and pushing the boundaries of human knowledge, Perimeter is a place where curiosity thrives, and transformative ideas take shape.

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  • #274
History and Philosophy of Physics:

Reading this thread (Exploring Implicit Assumptions and Foundations of Quantum Mechanics) I kinda wanted to throw Hermann Weyl's classic The Theory of Groups and Quantum Mechanics in there. Specifically these quotes. But as I'm way out of my league, don't really understand the book myself, and mostly have Wikipedia links I have no business inserting myself into that discussion. I'll just leave this "funny" desciption, from Wiki's link to Weyls book, here:


John Archibald Wheeler wrote of learning quantum mechanics from Weyl's book, "His style is that of a smiling figure on horseback, cutting a clean way through, on a beautiful path, with a swift bright sword." Edward Condon called the text "authoritative". Julian Schwinger said of it, "I read and re-read that book, each time progressing a little farther, but I cannot say that I ever – not even to this day – fully mastered it. The book was one of the first works to give a quantitative statement of the uncertainty principle, which Werner Heisenberg had previously introduced in a less precise way. Weyl credited the idea to Wolfgang Pauli. (Robertson, who later translated Weyl's book into English, cited the argument Weyl gave as the basis for his own generalization of the uncertainty principle to arbitrary noncommuting observables.) Moreover, it contains an early description of density matrices and quantum entanglement, and it uses what quantum information theory would later call the Weyl–Heisenberg group to give a finite-dimensional version of the canonical commutation relation.

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