Calculating distance using redshift

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of distance in megaparsecs using redshift, the speed of light, and Hubble's constant. Participants explore the formula d = c z/H and the implications of the units involved, particularly focusing on the interpretation of Hubble's constant.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the units of Hubble's constant and their role in the distance calculation.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial calculation but challenges the understanding of the units, suggesting that the confusion may stem from a possible typo in the reference material.
  • A third participant shares an experience with a different astronomical object, noting that the redshift produced unexpected results, which led them to seek out an online calculator for verification.
  • A later reply acknowledges the challenges faced and commends the thoroughness of the inquiry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the units of Hubble's constant, and there are competing views regarding the accuracy of the reference material and the calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the notation of Hubble's constant and its implications for the calculations, as well as the potential for typos in the reference material affecting the results.

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Hi. I have pretty rudimentary math skills, and am hoping someone can explain this formula for me, found online a number of places including:

http://www.astrophysicsspectator.com/topics/overview/DistanceExtragalactic.html

for calculating distance (d) in megaparsecs using redshift (z), the speed of light (c), and Hubble's constant (H).

d = c z/H

It's the (units in) Hubble's constant that have me confused. In the example from the link, "we see that objects with a redshift of 0.1 are about 4.6 gigaparsecs [a]way", assuming an H of 65 km s-1 Mpc-1. So I assumed c here would be in km/s, but:

300000 * (0.1/65) = 461

Which is 0.46 gigaparsecs, not 4.6. What is it about the units/Hubble's constant here that I don't get?

Here's what I guessing: units ^ -1 mean 65 should be multiplied by 0.1, which is different than 65 ^ -1. This would make H 6.5, and the result would be correct. Is that right? If so, why is the notation km/s-1/Mpc-1? How would that be different from km/s/Mpc-1?
 
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I think your calculation (as it was) is correct. Your guess about the units is definitely not right---the units are separate from the number attached to them.
Maybe their result is just a typo...
 
Yeah, you're right. The next thing I tried this on was the Large Magellanic Cloud, which produced even more bizarre results, but I found a calculator for this online:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/astro/hubble.html#c3

And eventually got some data to match up (it seems the LMC's redshift is an anomaly, so my first test case was a typo and my second anomalous -_-).
 
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Haha, just some bad luck I guess!
Way to be thorough---good job
 

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