Calculating Modes in a Cavity: Why Use a Spherical Volume?

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This discussion focuses on the mathematical justification for using a spherical volume to calculate modes in a cavity, specifically in the context of the Rayleigh-Jean Law. The participants clarify that the division by 8 accounts for the positive nature of quantum numbers, while also addressing the misconception regarding the integer nature of these quantum numbers. The conversation highlights the approximation involved in assuming uniform density of points, suggesting that a more accurate expression can be derived. For further understanding, the first chapter of "Statistical Mechanics" by Pathria is recommended.

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  • Understanding of Rayleigh-Jean Law
  • Familiarity with quantum numbers in physics
  • Basic knowledge of spherical geometry
  • Concept of mode counting in quantum mechanics
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  • Study the derivation of the Rayleigh-Jean Law in detail
  • Explore the concept of mode counting in spherical volumes
  • Read the first chapter of "Statistical Mechanics" by Pathria for advanced insights
  • Investigate the implications of discrete grid points in quantum mechanics
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Physicists, students of quantum mechanics, and researchers interested in the mathematical foundations of mode counting in cavities will benefit from this discussion.

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My question stems form the section "How Many Modes in a Cavity?" in the following derivation of Rayleigh-Jean Law:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/rayj.html#c2"

In here, they count the number of modes as represented by volume of an eighth of a sphere. What's the mathematical justification behind using a spherical volume? Also, I understand why they divided by 8 since the n's must be positive, but aren't the n's here also supposed to be integers only?
 
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My question stems form the section "How Many Modes in a Cavity?" in the following derivation of Rayleigh-Jean Law:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/rayj.html#c2"

In here, they count the number of modes as represented by volume of an eighth of a sphere. What's the mathematical justification behind using a spherical volume? Also, I understand why they divided by 8 since the n's must be positive, but aren't the n's here also supposed to be integers only?
We may be interested in the mode count within a sphere. It may relate to questions like how many modes have energy less that some particular value or other calculations.

There is an error here introduced by pretending like the points have a uniform density when actually there are discrete grid points. It's an approximation. It's possible to make a more accurate expression. You might want to look at the first chapter of https://www.amazon.com/dp/0123821886/?tag=pfamazon01-20if you are interested.
 
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