Calculating the molar concentration of H3O+ and pH of solutions

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The discussion focuses on calculating the molar concentration of H3O+ ions and the pH of various solutions resulting from the mixing of strong acids and bases. It includes specific homework problems and attempts at solutions, with participants exploring the calculations involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the concentration of H3O+ and pH for the first problem, arriving at [H3O+] = 9.5 x 10-3 mol and pH = 2.0.
  • Another participant questions the limiting reagent in the second problem and notes that the acid is the limiting reagent, suggesting that the resulting [H3O+] is 0.04875 mol/L and pH = 12.3.
  • A later reply challenges the previous calculations, questioning the amount of H3O+ remaining and the validity of the pH value provided.
  • One participant asserts that the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation is not applicable to strong acids and bases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the calculations for the second problem, particularly regarding the limiting reagent and the resulting concentrations and pH values. There is no consensus on the correct answers for parts b) and c).

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the calculations for parts b) and c), and there are uncertainties regarding the definitions of limiting reagents and the application of relevant equations.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the the molar concentration of H3O+ ions and the pH of the following solutions:
a) 25.0 cm3 of 0.144 M HCl(aq) was added to 25.0 cm3 of 0.125 M NaOH(aq)
b) 25.0 cm3 of 0.15 M HCl(aq) was added to 35.0 cm3 of 0.15 M KOH(aq)
c) 21.2 cm3 of 0.22 M HNO3(aq) was added to 10.0 cm3 of 0.30 M NaOH(aq)

Homework Equations


pH = -log[H3O+] Handerson - Hasselbach eqn.

The Attempt at a Solution


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I have only been able to solve part a)

I did that by multiplying the molairty of the strong acid/base by the total volume

then: [H3O+] = [HCl] - [NaOH] = 9.5 x 10-3mol

then took the negative log of that number to find the pH = 2.0

which are the correct answers, but when I do that process for part b) and c) which are also strong acid/base combos, the answers are no where near correct.

Any help will be appreciated.
 
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In the second case - what is the limiting reagent? What is left in the solution after the neutralization reaction took place?
 
Borek said:
In the second case - what is the limiting reagent? What is left in the solution after the neutralization reaction took place?

In the second case the LR is the acid. When i do that calculation I find that the [H3O+] = .04875 mol/L

the answer is 21 mmol/L and a pH = 12.3
 
NYK said:
In the second case the LR is the acid.

Good.

When i do that calculation I find that the [H3O+] = .04875 mol/L

the answer is 21 mmol/L and a pH = 12.3

I am afraid neither of these numbers is correct.

First of all - you said acid was the limiting reagent. If so, how come there is mo much H3O+ left?

21 mmol/L of what?

pH of 12.3 is quite close - but it is possible to easily give a better answer.
 
Strong acids and bases, so Henderson - Hasselbach eqn. never came into it.
 

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