Can households own capital goods?

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The discussion revolves around whether households can own capital goods, with a focus on definitions, examples, and implications in both theoretical and real-world contexts. It touches on consumer goods versus capital goods, the role of firms, and specific examples like housing and technology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that in standard economics, a car is classified as a consumer good, while questioning if domestic housing falls into the same category.
  • One participant argues that by definition, capital goods are held by firms, while households hold consumption goods, suggesting that households indirectly own capital through firm-held assets.
  • Another participant states that the classification depends on the model used, indicating that in real life, households can own capital through various means such as renting out property or owning stocks.
  • A participant introduces the concept of "capital improvements" in relation to residential properties, suggesting that certain enhancements can increase value.
  • Examples of technology ownership are discussed, particularly regarding laptops used for both personal and business purposes, raising questions about their classification as capital goods.
  • One participant references IRS rules on depreciation for business assets, indicating a connection between ownership and tax implications.
  • There is agreement that real estate and stocks are considered capital goods, with further clarification on what constitutes real estate.
  • A participant prompts for clarification on the original question, indicating a potential shift in focus within the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and classifications of capital goods versus consumer goods. There is no consensus on whether households can own capital goods directly, as opinions vary based on theoretical models and real-world applications.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying assumptions about economic definitions and the implications of ownership in different contexts, including personal use versus business use. The classification of goods may depend on specific circumstances and interpretations.

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In standard economics I read that the purchase of a car by a household is considered a consumer good. This is because the car is used for personal purposes and not to increase production. But what about domestic housing? Is this considered a consumer durable for the same reason?
 
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Define "owns". As I think you intend it, no; by definition the firms hold capital goods, and consumers hold consumption goods.

But firms buy capital with household savings. The households, then, "own" capital indirectly (with the firm holding it in trust, effectively).
 
Depends on the assumptions of the model. If by ‘standard economics’ you mean the models taught in undergrad econ textbooks then probably no but it depends on what you’re modelling and the assumptions of those models. If you mean whether in real life households can own capital, then yes, for example renting out land/property, deposits in banks, ownership of shares etc. etc.
 
When discussing a residence, I believe the term you are searching for is "capital improvements"? These might include restorations or perhaps equipment that improves the value - such as an air conditioner, on-demand hot water heater, or a central vacuum system.
 
What about this example, a laptop that a consumer buys but then uses to make opensource software or for-profit (contracted) software and uses for household purposes as well?
 
EntropicLove said:
What about this example, a laptop that a consumer buys but then uses to make opensource software or for-profit (contracted) software and uses for household purposes as well?

If the computer is used for business purposes - a business tax return will be filed and the computer (along with other office equipment and supplies) accounted for accordingly.
 
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Yes, real estate and stocks are considered capital goods.
 
Stocks (common or preferred) represent ownership - shares in a company - equity. Real estate can refer to either land or buildings.
 
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the4thamigo - Was there a specific question or problem that you wanted to address - we de-railed a slight bit - IMO.
 

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