Can Liquid Oxygen Be Used for Proton Breeding in Space via Neutron Activation?

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The discussion centers on the potential use of liquid oxygen for proton breeding in space through neutron activation, particularly focusing on the feasibility and effectiveness of converting neutrons into protons using oxygen-16. Participants also explore the implications of using liquid oxygen as a shielding material against fast neutrons from D-T fusion.

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  • One participant questions whether liquid oxygen can effectively convert neutrons into protons via oxygen-16 neutron activation and seeks to understand the effectiveness of this process.
  • Another participant notes that while high-energy neutrons can induce reactions such as 16O + n -> 16N + p, most neutrons lose energy before such reactions occur, which may limit the effectiveness of proton breeding.
  • There is a suggestion that hydrogen might serve as a better neutron shield compared to liquid oxygen, although any material that can scatter, slow, or absorb neutrons could act as shielding.
  • Questions arise regarding the interpretation of graphs and tables in the referenced document, specifically about the meaning of "mb" in relation to cross sections and the definitions of Emax and Rmax in the context of emitted particles.

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Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of liquid oxygen for neutron activation and its potential as a shielding material, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

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Some participants highlight the importance of understanding the energy levels of neutrons and the conditions under which neutron activation occurs, as well as the need for clarity in interpreting technical graphs and tables.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring nuclear reactions in space, neutron activation processes, and the use of materials for radiation shielding in advanced nuclear applications.

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Question, let's say I'm in space and I have acces to fast nuclear reactor and a lot of Liquid Oxygen, could I convert a decent portion of the neutron into Protons using Oxygen 16 Neutron activation? How effective would it be?

I found the following document on Oxygen neutron activation:

http://www.irpa.net/irpa1/cdrom/VOL.2/R2_7.PDF

Edit2: Alternatively, what If the LqdOxygen was used as a shield agains D-T fusion fast neutron
 
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See Figure 9: If you have very high-energetic neutrons, you can get some 16O + n -> 16N + p reactions, but most of the time the neutrons will lose their energy before they do that. The protons will also have a lower energy, and you need the neutrons for tritium breeding in D-T-fusion.
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Edit2: Alternatively, what If the LqdOxygen was used as a shield agains D-T fusion fast neutron
I would expect hydrogen to be a better shield, but everything that can scatter, slow or absorb neutrons acts as shielding.
 
Ok, I 'm trying to understand, but could you make me understand the Graphs and Tables better

At figure 9, in the left sifr of th graph we can see the letters "mb", does this stand for Cross section in micro barn ?

At figure 10 at column En = 14 MVe , what do the sub columns Emax and Rmax stand for?
 
Sebastiaan said:
At figure 9, in the left sifr of th graph we can see the letters "mb", does this stand for Cross section in micro barn ?
m=milli
µ=micro
Doesn't matter much as only relative values matter.
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At figure 10 at column En = 14 MVe , what do the sub columns Emax and Rmax stand for?
The maximal energies and ranges of the emitted particles in living tissue, see the description below the table.
 

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