Can the Federation interfere in other planets' affairs in Star Trek?

[Secan]

There are no Vulcans and as such there is no such thing as Vulcan science. Not sure if a science fiction theory is possible? Bye the way most accepted theories are actually science fiction

What do you mean most accepted theories are actually science fiction? Like Superstring theory?

Speaking of Superstring theory. Ideas of different vacua and landscape is very interesting.

Many abductees told me that before the late 1940s. The Borgs were trapped or imprisoned in some vacua, dimensions, parallel world, dark matter universe or whatever. I forgot if the Borgs as slaves long ago rebelled against their masters (just like Caprica). These gave legends to demons bound in hell. Then something occurred in the early 1940s that released them from the brane prisons, some activities done by Hitler and the Nazi (Imagine Hellboy portal experiment). Then the Borgs got released and we have our first sightings in 1947s. And multiple sightings in the 1950s and 1960s even near the White House. When the Borgs started their Hybrid Project, they began abductions in the 1960s (Betty and Barney Hill drew not just the Borgs but also some Nazi in caps). And in the 2000s. The Hybrid Project was finished. Most abductees now met the grown up Hybrids with Mindscan power (like Vulcan Mind melt).

I of course hope they are all just science fiction. It's better to believe the government and the world is in control. And nothing beyond the Standard Model.

Whatever. What science fiction movies have propulsionless ship and how they did they travel? In Flight of the Navigator. You have one scene where it just shot up in the air. In the documentary "Phenomenon". I saw a report of one witness in the 1970s seeing a ship did just like that. The disc turning vertical and shot up in the sky and vanish in instant.

 

[Drakkith]

Many abductees told me that before the late 1940s. The Borgs were trapped or imprisoned in some vacua, dimensions, parallel world, dark matter universe or whatever. I forgot if the Borgs as slaves long ago rebelled against their masters (just like Caprica). These gave legends to demons bound in hell. Then something occurred in the early 1940s that released them from the brane prisons, some activities done by Hitler and the Nazi (Imagine Hellboy portal experiment). Then the Borgs got released and we have our first sightings in 1947s. And multiple sightings in the 1950s and 1960s even near the White House. When the Borgs started their Hybrid Project, they began abductions in the 1960s (Betty and Barney Hill drew not just the Borgs but also some Nazi in caps). And in the 2000s. The Hybrid Project was finished. Most abductees now met the grown up Hybrids with Mindscan power (like Vulcan Mind melt).

Umm, what? What are you talking about?

 

[Secan]

Umm, what? What are you talking about?

I just remembered this funny incident. The Hybrids are really so ignorant, and have such low EQ.

A researchers met dozens and dozens of women taken by the Borgs. From "Walking Among Us:

"Betsey has been teaching hybrid and hubrid children since at least the 1980s. In a 1988 abduction event, she first had her table procedures. During
these, she realized that, for some reason, she had more mental control than usual. She waited for her chance and then jumped off the table and ran toward a doorway with a gray standing in it. In her panic, she tried to push him aside, but hit the arched doorway wall instead, sustaining a hairline fracture in her wrist. She continued to run down a hallway, but a tall gray got in front of her and brought her under control. They then took her into a room crowded with other abductees, several early-stage hybrid caretakers, and hybrid children, most of whom were wearing white gowns. A caretaker brought her to a five- or six-year-old boy who was wearing human clothes. With her arm aching, she had a conversation with the young hybrid that focused on food. He was human in his reactions and desires, and he indicated that he had had contact with other abductees."

Here is the funny part. Sometimes we need some comedy amidst all our serious science fiction flicks topics.

"Seventeen years later, Betsey was still answering questions for young hybrids. In 2005, she was taken into a room with several hybrid children between ages five and ten. Here, she was subjected to a question cascade.

They're asking me, “What do kids do?” and I'm saying, “Mostly they go to school and they learn things.” Then they're trying to relate it back, “Well, do they learn how to play basketball? Do they learn how to play baseball?” I said, “Sometimes, but mostly school is for other things.” This is all rapid-fire, though. They want to know what kids eat, how they eat, where they sleep. What do they mean by how do they eat? Do they eat with their fingers? Do they eat with utensils? What's the process involved? Why is the food on a plate? What's the purpose of the plate? Why are some foods eaten with the fingers and some foods are not? It's like endless questions. “How do you know when to eat with your fingers and when to eat with a utensil? How do you know what kind of plate to use? Why do you use a plate? Can you not use a plate?” I mean it's just endless. It's like they don't know anything. And then they're saying, “How do these kids learn all this?” and I said, “This is what we do with them since they're babies. They just know.” Then, when I bring up the subject of babies, it's, “Why don't babies eat this food? Why do babies have bottles?” And I'm thinking they should know some of this stuff. This is not mystery stuff here; this is simple. This whole exchange is mentally exhausting."

I hope Star Trek in the future can also feature the Borgs Hybrids so we are entertained more.

 

[MikeeMiracle]

You do realize most people do not believe in aliens or alien abductions don't you so your not gaining much credibility by persisting with this theme.

 

[Drakkith]

I just remembered this funny incident.

Are we still talking about Star Trek? None of what you said makes any sense to me.

 

[Secan]

You do realize most people do not believe in aliens or alien abductions don't you so your not gaining much credibility by persisting with this theme.

The abductees told me they were not aliens, but droid slaves from either parallel world or dark matter universe. I'm just sharing what they say in light Star Trek Borgs. Maybe to gain understanding of the psychological and neural aspects of it.

For example. It's puzzling why the Borgs just ignored Picard and his crews when they were walking into their midst in the alley in the Starship Enterprise. Anyone knows why?

 

[Vanadium 50]

You can add me to the list of the confused. It sounds like you are claiming alien abductions are real, but the aliens doing the abductions are fictional, and from a fiction not yet written.

 

[Secan]

You can add me to the list of the confused. It sounds like you are claiming alien abductions are real, but the aliens doing the abductions are fictional, and from a fiction not yet written.

I am not claiming it. Just sharing what abductees were saying, that abductions were real but they were caused not by aliens but by Borg-like beings from either parallel Earth or dark matter. These Borg-like beings were abandoned by their masters.

Back to Star Trek. Imagine a faction of the Borgs became trapped in a parallel world or dark matter universe. Then they got entry to our world, and began the process of assimilations. This is done by creating Hybrids as extensions of themselves. So many women now reported being harassed by these Hybrids, some raped, sexually abused. These Hybrids drove saucers and in cloaked mode. It's like the Hybrids are narcissists and controlling, because of their upbringing. These are all detailed in the book Walking Among Us.

I got interested in Star Trek Borgs to understand these better. And the more I understand the Borgs. The more likely is the abductees telling the truth. Of course it is easy to just believe they are all nuts.

Whatever. In this universe with billions of stars and galaxies. Slaves constructed of pure AI can exist, is it not. They will have Hive mind instead of individual selves. I'm watching Caprica a lot too to gain insight into all these.

Also I think Borg is acronym for Bionic Organic Regenerative Grid. What is other good acronyms for Borg?

 

[Vanadium 50]

Back to Star Trek...These are all detailed in the book Walking Among Us.

Which is not Star Trek.

I have no idea what you are trying to say. You say it's about Star Trek, but then you keep mixing in crackpot conspiracy theories about alien abductions.

 

[Secan]

Which is not Star Trek.

I have no idea what you are trying to say. You say it's about Star Trek, but then you keep mixing in crackpot conspiracy theories about alien abductions.

Just expressing wish list for future Star Trek movies. I'm just bored with the old episodes because they lack some essential ingredients. For example, they have not encountered Darth Vader-like races.

You are right it's crackpot conspiracy theories about alien abductions. Because it's not alien abductions. We are not dealing with aliens from Zeta Reticuli. The star map seen by Betty and Hills were just staged to make people believe they are from Zeta Reticuli. Instead we are dealing with Borgs from other parallel realities. But that's not all. The Borgs had same experience in the movie Event Horizon. As they were put in the other parallel realities, they got possessed by negative entities.

I think at this point in time with all resistances by the scientific community and their attention focus on certain thoughts system or what Woit called Mathematical Theology like M-Theory. We can perhaps say Resistance is Futile.

I guess in time Earth can all be assimilated by these possessed Borgs from other dimensions (in science ficiton, the term is "other dimension" short for other parallel realities). They are waiting for natural catastrophe like climate chance to diminish the population and after much chaos in the political, cultural, military and other arena. Then they claim they will come to the the open.

In the movie Star Trek: First Contact. Our moments of first contact were said to be when we could discover Warp drive. In our reality. When the Borgs staged the crash at Roswell to gain entry and secret liaison with super secret clandestine US military and Elites. And our world given access to some advanced technology and considering humanity is a primitive races with thousands of nuclear weapons in store. We are actually in some kind of Federation Blockade. Real aliens don't abduct. Real aliens have bases in the Phobos moon of Mars for example. Contactees of real aliens are not abducted.

By the way. What does Star Trek say about Phobos moon of Mars. Do they say there is Federation outpost there?

Ok. Let's get back to Star Trek in this or other threads which I may not participate. Because for now. I agree Resistance is Futile. But we still have many freedom left in everyday life. So let's enjoy whatever little freedom we have. And live and enjoy one day at a time.

 

[berkeman]

I felt a strange urge to lock this thread. I'm not sure what this feeling is -- something is coming over me I fear...