Can the Mass of a Black Hole Bend Time and Space?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of black holes on time and space, particularly whether the mass of a black hole is sufficient to bend these dimensions. Participants explore the relationship between mass, gravity, and the bending of light, with references to neutron stars and gravitational lensing.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that all mass bends time and space, with black holes and neutron stars being significant examples due to their large mass.
  • One participant notes that black holes have gravity so strong that light cannot escape, distinguishing them from other massive objects.
  • Another participant suggests that black holes bend spacetime more significantly than neutron stars due to their greater gravitational pull.
  • It is mentioned that while black holes capture light that crosses their event horizon, photons passing near the event horizon are subject to gravitational lensing.
  • A participant references the historical context of light bending as a confirmation of Einstein's General Relativity, indicating that even less massive objects like the sun can bend light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that mass affects the bending of time and space, but there are varying perspectives on the extent and implications of this effect, particularly between black holes and other massive objects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of how these effects manifest.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of mass and its effects on spacetime may not be fully articulated, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of gravitational lensing or the precise mechanics of light behavior near black holes.

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Hey everyone!

Research is one of my hobbies, and yesterday I decided to study both neutron stars and black holes. From my freshman year in High School in my Geology class, I remember being fascinated by astronomy, and what really caught my attention was the life of a supermassive star. I remember reading that the mass of a black hole is powerful enough to bend light. Is the mass of a black hole powerful enough to bend time and space?
 
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All mass bends time and space (one and the same, hence the expression spacetime), but black holes and neutron stars (and whole galaxy clusters) are the only objects who's mass is large enough to bend space on an obvious (visible) scale.
 
Vorde said:
All mass bends time and space (one and the same, hence the expression spacetime), but black holes and neutron stars (and whole galaxy clusters) are the only objects who's mass is large enough to bend space on an obvious (visible) scale.

It is worth noting, since the OP specifically mentioned it, that a corollary to this is that ALL mass bends beams of light. This includes our own humble sun, and in fact was one of the first ways in which Einstein's General Relativity was confirmed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity#Deflection_of_light_by_the_Sun
 
The main difference (from the point of view fo gravity) between a black hole and other objects is that the gravity of a black hole is so strong that light can't escape.
 
I would assume that BH bend space time much more than Neutron stars as well for the significant increase in gravitation. Something like a black hole will suck in light is it gets close enough while something way less massive like the sun merely bends it slightly. Look up gravataional lensing to see a picture and better explanation of this.
 
Black holes only capture light that enters their event horizon. Photons that pass just outside the event horizon are gravitationally lensed.
 

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