Can This Equation Be Applied to Both Continuous and Discrete Energy Spectra?

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The discussion revolves around the applicability of a specific equation to both continuous and discrete energy spectra in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the implications of using the equation in different contexts, particularly in relation to the normalization of wavefunctions and the calculation of eigenvalues in systems like the infinite potential well.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the equation is exclusively for continuous spectra, noting its use in finding eigenvalues for discrete spectra in the case of the infinite potential well.
  • One participant suggests that a summation (Sigma) should replace the integral sign when dealing with discrete spectra.
  • Another participant argues that integrating over the whole wavefunction for normalization is valid even for discrete spectra, emphasizing that the wavefunctions can be continuous despite the discrete nature of the energy levels.
  • It is proposed that the choice between summing or integrating is determined by the basis used for the operation, rather than the energy spectrum itself, with the outcome being independent of this choice.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the equation to continuous versus discrete spectra, with no consensus reached on whether the equation can be universally applied in both cases.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of continuous and discrete spectra, as well as the specific conditions under which the equation is applied. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on the mathematical treatment of wavefunctions in different contexts.

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Is this equation only for continuous spectra?
they have used it to find the eigenvalues of energy spectra case of infinite potential well and we know that this case means discrete spectra..
can this equation in the attachment be used like in this case?
 

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M. next said:
Is this equation only for continuous spectra?
they have used it to find the eigenvalues of energy spectra case of infinite potential well and we know that this case means discrete spectra..
can this equation in the attachment be used like in this case?

Sigma should be used in place of integral sign for discrete spectra.
 
but check the attachment, he used it, check the question, and the solution.. i didnt include all questionsbut thr solution is an answer for the question.. find A so that psi(x,0) is normalized
 

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Even if spectra are discrete, there's nothing wrong with integrating over the whole wavefunction in order to normalize, or find probabilities. The discreteness factors in when you realize that our expressions for [itex]\psi[/itex] and energy take on discrete values, usually separated by some integer factor n, but the wavefunctions themselves are continuous, so we can integrate over them.
 
ok thanks looooads,
 
cattlecattle said:
Sigma should be used in place of integral sign for discrete spectra.

Whether you're summing or integrating does not depend on the energy spectrum of a system but on the basis you chose for the operation. The result of an inner product is independent of the choice of the basis you expand the states into. If you expand into a discretely labeled basis (like a discrete energy basis or a spin basis) then you have to sum, if you expand into a continuously labeled basis (like a continuous energy spectrum or the momentum or position basis) then you have to integrate. The result is the same however.
 

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