Can We Take the Derivative of a Unit?

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The discussion focuses on the differentiation of velocity, expressed in meters per second (m/s), and its relationship to acceleration, which is measured in meters per second squared (m/s²). Participants confirm that when taking the derivative of velocity with respect to time, the resulting units align with acceleration. The conversation clarifies that the units of differentiation can be derived through division, reinforcing that the units of dX/dY are equivalent to the units of X/Y. The minus sign mentioned in the context of differentiation is deemed unnecessary.

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okay we know that velocity is in meters per second and that acceleration is in
m/(s^2) , so if I take the derivative of velocity with respect to time i get acceleration .
but just looking at the units , if i start with velocity m/s (ms^-1) this might sound crazy but can i just take the derivative of s and get -ms^(-2) , any help would be appreciated.
 
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cragar said:
okay we know that velocity is in meters per second and that acceleration is in
m/(s^2) , so if I take the derivative of velocity with respect to time i get acceleration .
but just looking at the units , if i start with velocity m/s (ms^-1) this might sound crazy but can i just take the derivative of s and get -ms^(-2) , any help would be appreciated.

The units of X/Y are the same as the units of -X/Y. The factor has -1 has no dimension.

Cheers -- sylas
 
so what i did was correct , except for the minus sign .
 
cragar said:
so what i did was correct , except for the minus sign .

Yes. When you obtain the units for a differentiation, you just need to do division. The units of X/Y are the same as the units of dX/dY. If you do a full differentiation and then extract units from the result you will get the same result as simply extracting the units by getting units for X and units for Y, and dividing. Actually carrying out a differentiation is overkill if all you want is units, but it gives the same result.

Cheers -- sylas
 
so we are just dividing everything by dY , in our case s , in all of my physics classes it was never really explained so thanks for taking the time to explain it.
 
cragar said:
so we are just dividing everything by dY , in our case s , in all of my physics classes it was never really explained so thanks for taking the time to explain it.

You're welcome. Remember that dX/dY is defined as the limit of ΔX/ΔY as the small delta changes go towards 0. Taking a limit makes no difference to the units, so the units of the derivative is indeed the units of a division.
 

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