Can You Solve These Combinatorial Equations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving combinatorial equations and proving related identities, including the binomial theorem and Pascal's identity. Participants seek assistance with specific problems involving combinations and counting solutions to equations in non-negative integers.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with combinatorial equations and requests help with specific problems, including proving that 3C0 + 3C1 + 3C2 + 3C3 = 23 and generalizing this for any r and n.
  • Another participant suggests that the first problem simplifies to 1 + 3 + 3 + 1, which totals 8, but finds the generalization challenging.
  • There is a mention of Pascal's Identity in relation to the second problem, with a participant unsure how to prove it aside from substituting variables into the combination formula.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of showing prior work when asking for help, referencing forum rules that encourage users to demonstrate their understanding to facilitate better assistance.
  • Another participant provides a mathematical expression related to the second problem and hints at using properties of factorials to simplify it further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for prior effort to be shown in homework posts, but there is no consensus on the solutions to the combinatorial problems or the best methods for proving the identities.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the generalization of the first problem and the proof of Pascal's Identity, indicating that these aspects may depend on deeper understanding or additional context not provided in the thread.

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*sigh* As the title says, they are the bane of my existence... I'd really appreciate it if you guys could help me with these bloody things.

1. Prove that 3C0 + 3C1 + 3C2 + 3C3 = 23 Generalize the formula for any value of r and n such that 0<=r<=n.

2. Prove that n-1Cr + n-1Cr-1 = nCr

3. i) How many solutions (in non-negative integers) are there of the equation x + y + z = 8?

3. ii) How many solutions (in non-negative integers) are there of the equation x + y + z = 18?
 
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IHateFactorial said:
*sigh* As the title says, they are the bane of my existence... I'd really appreciate it if you guys could help me with these bloody things.

1. Prove that 3C0 + 3C1 + 3C2 + 3C3 = 23 Generalize the formula for any value of r and n such that 0<=r<=n.

2. Prove that n-1Cr + n-1Cr-1 = nCr

3. i) How many solutions (in non-negative integers) are there of the equation x + y + z = 8?

3. ii) How many solutions (in non-negative integers) are there of the equation x + y + z = 18?

Have you tried anything? The first two are just using the choose formula to simplify each...
 
Yes, I have. I do know that the first one simplifies to 1 + 3 + 3 + 1 which is 8, but the generalizing part stumps me.

As for the second, I have absolutely NO idea how to prove Pascal's Identity, aside from putting in the variables into their Combination formula.

Also, thanks for the sarcastic response, appreciate it.
 
IHateFactorial said:
Yes, I have. I do know that the first one simplifies to 1 + 3 + 3 + 1 which is 8, but the generalizing part stumps me.

As for the second, I have absolutely NO idea how to prove Pascal's Identity, aside from putting in the variables into their Combination formula.

Also, thanks for the sarcastic response, appreciate it.

You post a thread which says how much you hate what you are doing, and post four questions without showing that you have made any effort (which is one of the rules of this forum) and you wonder why you get a sarcastic response?

But your idea of putting the variables into the combination formula is a good one, try it!
 
IHateFactorial said:
...Also, thanks for the sarcastic response, appreciate it.

Prove It did not post sarcastically...he was merely following our policy to sincerely ask users who posts questions without any work shown what they have tried. This helps us help you more efficiently, if we know where you are with the material. It is why we have MHB Rule #11 and we also ask in MHB Rule #8 that you post no more than two question in your initial post. When you post more than that, threads can become convoluted as several people might be trying to help with different questions simultaneously in the same thread.

For the first question, try applying the binomial theorem to the expansion of:

$$(1+1)^n$$
 
For #2, you've got $$\dfrac{(n-1)!}{r!(n-1-r)!}+\dfrac{(n-1)!}{(r-1)!(n-r)!}$$

which may be written as

$$(n-1)!\left(\dfrac{(r-1)!(n-r)!+r!(n-1-r)!}{r!(n-1-r)!(r-1)!(n-r)!}\right)$$

Now think of how, using the properties of factorials, you can rewrite the nominator as

$$(r-1)!\cdot(n-1-r)!\cdot n$$.
 

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