Chemical reaction of electrochemical etching

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the chemical reactions involved in electrochemical etching of silicon wafers, specifically focusing on the interactions between silicon and various chemical agents such as hydrofluoric acid, ethanol, hydrogen peroxide, and dimethylformamide. Participants explore the potential products of these reactions and the role of solvents in influencing the morphology of porous silicon structures.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the chemical reactions between silicon and various chemicals used in electrochemical etching, seeking to understand the products formed.
  • Another participant proposes specific reaction equations for the interactions of silicon with hydrofluoric acid, ethanol, hydrogen peroxide, and dimethylformamide, but acknowledges that the equations are not balanced.
  • Some participants suggest that ethanol and dimethylformamide may act as solvents or spectators in the reactions, not directly participating in the chemical changes.
  • Conversely, another participant argues that these organic solvents play a significant role in achieving uniformity and defining the morphology of porous silicon structures, indicating a more complex interaction than mere solvent behavior.
  • There is a discussion about how different solvents can stabilize various forms of products and intermediates, potentially leading to different morphologies without altering the fundamental reaction equations.
  • A later reply emphasizes the need for further research into the reaction products and mechanisms to fully understand the processes involved, highlighting the complexity of the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of solvents in the reactions, with some asserting that they are merely spectators while others believe they significantly influence the outcomes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the chemical interactions and the contributions of the solvents.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the proposed reaction equations are not balanced, and there is uncertainty regarding the specific roles of the solvents in the etching process. The complexity of the reactions and the need for further investigation into the mechanisms are acknowledged.

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Greetings all,

I have some questions regarding to chemical reaction between Silicon,Si (wafer) and chemical dissolution. FYI, I'm doing electrochemical ething to fabricate porous Si. Could anyone help me to solve this chemical reactions?

1) Si (silicon wafer) + HF (hydroflouric acid)+ C2H5OH(ethanol) = ?

2) Si + HF + C2H5OH + H202 (hydrogen peroxide)= ?

3) Si + HF + (CH3)2NC(O)H (dimethylformamide)= ?

Thanks :smile:
 
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Hopefully somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. This is what I've found :

1) Si (silicon wafer) + HF (hydroflouric acid)+ C2H5OH(ethanol) = H2SiF6+ C2H6 + H2O + H2

2) Si + HF + C2H5OH + H202 (hydrogen peroxide)= H2SiF6+ C2H5F + H2O+ H2O2+H2

3) Si + HF + (CH3)2NC(O)H (dimethylformamide)= H2SiF6 + (CH3)2NCF + H2O+H2

To be honest chemistry is not my field. Any suggestion/comment? The equations is not balance at all.

Thanks.
 
My bet is that neither ethanol nor DMF take part in the reaction, they are just spectators/solvents.
 
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Borek said:
My bet is that neither ethanol nor DMF take part in the reaction, they are just spectators/solvents.

Thanks for the suggestion. But from my point of view, these organic solvent plays an important role for uniformity and well-define shapes of my porous structure. Either ethanol or DMF gives us different morphology of porous Si. Sort of 'tricky' reaction involved in this etching process that i investigate with.

What say you?:smile:
 
No contradiction here. Different solvents can stabilize different forms of products and intermediates, so the final morphology of the product can be different. It doesn't mean basic reaction equation is different.
 
Borek said:
No contradiction here. Different solvents can stabilize different forms of products and intermediates, so the final morphology of the product can be different. It doesn't mean basic reaction equation is different.

Oh yeah? So, that's mean ethanol and DMF just stabilized the products to gives different type of morphology! Thanks for the explanation. Very pleased indeed.
 
krik krik krik said:
Oh yeah? So, that's mean ethanol and DMF just stabilized the products to gives different type of morphology!

Note: all I am saying is that what you observe doesn't call for completely different reactions.

The only sure way is to research the reaction products and mechanism, but that can be quite demanding.
 

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