Could Mirror Matter Explain Human Consciousness?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of "mirror matter" and its potential implications for understanding human consciousness, specifically in relation to the mind/body problem. Participants explore various theories and claims regarding the existence of mirror matter and the idea of copies of ourselves existing within it.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that mirror matter could provide insights into the mind/body problem, with claims that it may imply the existence of copies of ourselves in mirror matter.
  • Others argue that claims linking mirror matter to consciousness are unsubstantiated and contradict current scientific understanding.
  • A participant mentions the idea of a "mirror photon" proposed by Bob Holdom, which would interact with mirror matter similarly to how photons interact with normal matter, though its existence lacks experimental evidence.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the existence of mirror matter and cites a conversation with Holdom, who does not support the idea of copying into mirror matter.
  • Another participant emphasizes that mirror matter was originally proposed to address parity violations in weak interactions and notes the absence of evidence linking it to biochemistry or neuroscience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are multiple competing views regarding the validity of mirror matter and its implications for consciousness. Some express skepticism and caution against considering it as a serious scientific concept, while others entertain the possibility of its relevance.

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Limitations include the lack of experimental evidence for mirror matter and the speculative nature of its proposed connections to consciousness. The discussion also reflects varying levels of acceptance regarding the scientific legitimacy of mirror matter.

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Hello All,
Some physicists today call about "mirror matter"( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_matter )
On some other forums,some people suggested that this mirror matter may help to solve maind/body problem.Ana some even supposed that existence of the mirror matter implies that we have a copies of ourselves into this miro matter,though mechanism about such copying is unknown.
What do you think about mirror matter and copying of ourselves into it?Could that be true?
I'm somewhat skeptical ,byt who knows...
Any thoughts will be appreciated
 
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I'm pretty sure that you started a thread on this some time ago and it was explained to you that any claims of mirror matter as explanations for the mind were both unsubstantiated and in contradiction to current scientific understandings.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=498225
 


Hi Ryan,nice to see you again.Yes,there we discussed Wassermann's ideas about shadow matter.Now,ther reason I'm posting here is that just yesterday I bumped into one forum(ol one),discussing mirror matter without regarding Wassermann's idea,but mentioned Bob Holdom particle,that can intermediate between normal and mirror matter.And one person suggested that if mirror matter exists,then we have a copies of ourselves into it.Agree/Disagree?
 


Nice to see you too. Shadow matter is just another term for mirror matter, it is the same thing. Bob Holdom has proposed that there may be a particle called the mirror photon which would be the same as the photon but only interact with mirror matter the same way photons interact with matter. It would not be a mediator between normal and mirror matter as the only way it would interact with normal matter is through gravity the same as mirror matter. I'm no expert so I don't know how valid claims of mirror photons are beyond the fact that there is no experimental evidence for their existence, I would advise if you want to know more about shadow/mirror matter you ask it in one of the physics subforums.

The idea that if mirror matter exists then there must be copies of us makes as much sense as suggesting that because there are other planets in the universe there must be real matter copies of us. Whilst not impossible it is highly improbable (more so because there is no evidence mirror matter exists) and contributes nothing to the study of the hard problem of consciousness (the more technical term for the body/mind relationship).
 


Thanks,Ryan,I'll post this question in physics subforums.By the way,after I read that forum yesterday,I called to Bob Holdom,and asked him about "coying" into the mirror matter body.He by himself told he doesn't believe it.He also doesn't believe in secondary body and he even told me: "well,there may not be mirror matter around us"
 


It seems that the idea of "mirror matter" once started in the realm of theoretical physics. It was postulated to solve parity violations in weak interactions after such violations were discovered in experimental data.

As far as I can tell, there's no evidence of this "mirror matter" and *certainly* nothing that links it with biochemistry or neuroscience.

It sounds like pseudo-science creeping into fringe-science.
 


FlexGunship said:
It seems that the idea of "mirror matter" once started in the realm of theoretical physics. It was postulated to solve parity violations in weak interactions after such violations were discovered in experimental data.

As far as I can tell, there's no evidence of this "mirror matter" and *certainly* nothing that links it with biochemistry or neuroscience.

It sounds like pseudo-science creeping into fringe-science.
Good points,thanks FlexGunship
 

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