Dachshund: Weiner Dog or Sad Drunk?

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The discussion revolves around the naming and cultural associations of the dachshund, often referred to as a "wiener dog." Participants explore the etymology of the term, its pronunciation variations, and humorous connections to concepts like drunkenness and whining. The conversation includes personal anecdotes and observations about the behavior of dachshunds and other dog breeds.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants discuss the pronunciation differences between "wiener" and "weiner," noting the German origins of the term "wiener" related to Vienna.
  • There is a suggestion that the term "weiner dog" may stem from confusion, with some questioning if it was meant to imply "wine" instead.
  • One participant humorously attributes dachshund behavior, such as biting ankles, to their short stature.
  • Another participant shares their experience with Staffordshire dogs, asserting they are not small and can be quite formidable.
  • Several comments joke about the dachshund's association with whining and drinking, with playful references to offering them beer.
  • There is a mention of the "Weinmaraner" breed and a humorous critique of its name, linking it to the concept of whining.
  • Participants engage in light-hearted banter about the names of various dog breeds and their implications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct pronunciation of "wiener" versus "weiner," and there is no consensus on the associations made between dachshunds and concepts like drunkenness or whining. The discussion remains playful and humorous, with multiple competing interpretations present.

Contextual Notes

Some comments reflect personal experiences and humor, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes various assumptions about dog behavior and breed characteristics that are not substantiated.

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Yesterday a friend of a friend got herself a dachshund and they called it a weiner dog.

I was slightly surprised. I could image a wiener dog, but weiner? I realize that there is not a lot of difference in the ei from Einstein and the ie from einstein, but not so in the German or Dutch language.

Wien (pronounce Wean) is the German version of the capital of Austria, Vienna. The wiener saucage, resembling the dog, comes from here. Hence the name Wiener.

Wein is wine, pronounciation nearly the same. Also, 'Weinen' is to whine; also almost identical pronounciation.

And I googled "wiener dog" 1,060,000 hits versus "weiner dog", 773,000 hits. So the correct version version is still in the lead, but for how long?

But how got this dog associated with a sad drunk?
 
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It is a sausage dog, not a wine dog. Did your friends really mean wine when they said it? Maybe they are confused?
 
Ms Music said:
It is a sausage dog, not a wine dog. Did your friends really mean wine when they said it? Maybe they are confused?

I believe OP is joking. :smile:
 
I don't have any good experiences of Dachshunds. This seems a resonable explanation of their behaviour IMO.
Q. Why do Dachshunds always bite your ankles?
A. Because they are too short to reach anything higher.
 
I guess it's the way how you pronounce Einstein and einstein, I guess.

Oh and it's one of the tragic mistakes to think that Dachshunds are small. Also for Staffordshires by the way, I know one of them too well. They are not small at all. The're sure that they easily beat a Dobermann, paws down. Their rather modest posture is a big mistake. They love to demonstrate that by looking at you at your eye level, every other second that is, in between when gravity and the missing leg length pulls them down again temporarely.
 
Andre said:
They love to demonstrate that by looking at you at your eye level, every other second that is, in between when gravity and the missing leg length pulls them down again temporarely.

Oh...
MY...
WORD!

*giggling fit starts*

So true!
 
:smile:
 
Andre said:
Also for Staffordshires by the way, I know one of them too well. They are not small at all. The're sure that they easily beat a Dobermann, paws down.

Only a Dobernamm? There's a reason why Staffys are called bull terriers :wink:
 
Are you sure they weren't referring to it as a whine dog? I've known lots of those, they come in all breeds.
 
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If you looked like a sausage, were bred for no brains, and to chase vermin down their holes you might also become a wino. Hence the confusion. Next time you see a wiener dog offer it a nice German beer. It's a rough life, but it's not like they can trade up.
 
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lisab said:
Are you sure they weren't referring to it as a whine dog? I've known lots of those, they come in all breeds.

Nein, Niemals werden Wieners weinen :-p They may demand, harass, nag, annoy, scold, whatever but they never wein. Weinmaraners can whine.
 
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Andre said:
Weinmaraners can whine.

It is not nice to see the name of Weimar, the city of Goethe, being spoiled for a cheap gag. :wink:

However, if there is some dog who has any reason to whine because of its dumb name, it is the Hannoverscher Schweißhund (Hanover sweat dog). But maybe after a few bottles of wine, it may become a hangover sweat dog...
 
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Cthugha said:
It is not nice to see the name of Weimar, the city of Goethe, being spoiled for a cheap gag. :wink:...

Oh please accept my apologies for my audacity to Johann W... :rolleyes: :biggrin: Yes the thread is getting more and more about a real Wolf gang
 
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Andre said:
Oh please accept my apologies for my audacity to Johann W... :rolleyes: :biggrin: Yes the thread is getting more and more about a real Wolf gang

Ah that made me howl :biggrin: