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The discussion centers on David Bohm's holographic theory, specifically the assertion that energy fields are decoded by the brain into a 3D image, creating the illusion of a physical world. Participants argue against the notion that the brain performs this conversion, emphasizing that depth perception relies on mechanisms such as binocular disparity and is limited to certain distances. The conversation also touches on the distinction between Bohm's ideas and the observer effect in quantum mechanics, clarifying that Bohm's interpretation does not necessarily involve consciousness or the measurement problem.

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"Energy fields are decoded by the brain into a 3D image, to give the illusion of a physical world."
- David Bohm

It's OK to believe in the holographic theory, but to believe that OUR BRAINS do that converting energy into a 3d image is completely nonsense.
He tried to fit the 'observer effect' with this?
What do you guys have to say about it?
 
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David Bohm said:
Energy fields are decoded by the brain into a 3D image, to give the illusion of a physical world.
Rajkovic said:
What do you guys have to say about it?
Actually, you really should provide a citation for Bohm's quote...
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Some links from Wikipedia for anyone that's interested... They're long and complicated, though.

David Bohm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bohm

Basil Hiley, co-worker of Bohm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Hiley

Some concepts by Bohm ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicate_and_explicate_order

The de Broglie–Bohm theory ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Broglie–Bohm_theory
 
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Rajkovic said:
to believe that OUR BRAINS do that converting energy into a 3d image is completely nonsense.

Actually it's basically a 2-D image isn't it? - the retina being what it is.
 
Rajkovic said:
It's OK to believe in the holographic theory, but to believe that OUR BRAINS do that converting energy into a 3d image is completely nonsense.

Cant follow that at all.

Stephen Tashi said:
Actually it's basically a 2-D image isn't it? - the retina being what it is.

For each eye - sure. But so?

Our eyes are apart and that allows us to get depth information the brain decodes.

Why does the exact way we get depth information have any bearing on fundamental physics?

Thanks
Bill
 
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Rajkovic said:
He tried to fit the 'observer effect' with this?What do you guys have to say about it?

I think you are caught up in the semantic confusion about what observer means in QM - its got nothing to do with conciousness.

Thanks
Bill
 
bhobba said:
Our eyes are apart and that allows us to get depth information the brain decodes.

That mechanism of detecting depth information is only effective out to a distance of about 20 ft. Beyond that, our inferences about depth are based on other aspects of the scene.

Why does the exact way we get depth information have any bearing on fundamental physics?

I don't know! However, if the discussion involves how the brain processes images, it should acknowledge what is known about how the brain actually processes them.
 
Rajkovic, I think all Bohm is saying is that what we see as the physical world is not as "solid" as we imagine but rather consists of things like energy fields, and that what we think of as reality is a construct of the human brain. Nothing at all to do with t'Hooft's Holographic Principle, and also nothing to do with "the observer affect" (if what you mean is the measurement problem of quantum physics). As a matter of fact, Bohm's own version of QM is the one that has the least to do with measurement.
 

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