I Derivation of two-electron density operator

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the two-electron density operator, specifically focusing on the second term in equation 2.11a. The participants express confusion about how this term eliminates the i=j products, suggesting that it involves identities related to delta functions. They explore the implications of integrating over electron positions and the special state of uncorrelated particles to clarify the derivation. The conversation highlights the need for additional context to fully understand the formulation of the two-electron density. Overall, the participants are seeking clarity on the mathematical steps involved in this derivation.
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Derivation of two electron density operator using single electron density operator
Hello, I am going over the derivation for two-electron density. I am having a hard time understanding how the second term in 2.11a seen below is derived. I know this term must eliminate the i=j products but can't seem to understand how. Thanks for the help.
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Where is this coming from? The 2nd equality of (2.11a) seems to indicate that you consider a special state of uncorrelated/free particles, but we need more context to make sense of it.
 
I've never seen the two-electron density written like that. Here are my thoughts but I can't say for sure.

Mart1234 said:
I know this term must eliminate the i=j products but can't seem to understand how.
Considering the terms where ##i=j## $$\sum_{i}\delta(\mathbf r-\mathbf r_i)\delta(\mathbf r' - \mathbf r_i)$$We should be able to use the identities ##\delta(x - y) = \delta(y - x)## and ##\int dy \delta(x-y)\delta(y-x') = \delta(x-x')## So we rewrite the above as $$\sum_{i}\delta(\mathbf r-\mathbf r_i)\delta(\mathbf r_i - \mathbf r')$$ and when we are computing the electron density function we will be integrating over ##\mathbf r_i## so the latter identity suggests $$\sum_i\int d\mathbf r_1\dots d\mathbf r_N \delta(\mathbf r - \mathbf r_i)\delta(\mathbf r_i - \mathbf r')|\Psi(\mathbf r_1,\dots, \mathbf r_N)|^2 = N\int d\mathbf r_2\dots d\mathbf r_N \delta(\mathbf r - \mathbf r')|\Psi(\mathbf r,\dots, \mathbf r_N)|^2$$For the last line. I am assuming $$\int dx\int dy \delta(x-y)\delta(y-x')f(y) = \int dx \delta(x-x')f(x)$$
 
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Morbert said:
I've never seen the two-electron density written like that. Here are my thoughts but I can't say for sure.Considering the terms where ##i=j## $$\sum_{i}\delta(\mathbf r-\mathbf r_i)\delta(\mathbf r' - \mathbf r_i)$$We should be able to use the identities ##\delta(x - y) = \delta(y - x)## and ##\int dy \delta(x-y)\delta(y-x') = \delta(x-x')## So we rewrite the above as $$\sum_{i}\delta(\mathbf r-\mathbf r_i)\delta(\mathbf r_i - \mathbf r')$$ and when we are computing the electron density function we will be integrating over ##\mathbf r_i## so the latter identity suggests $$\sum_i\int d\mathbf r_1\dots d\mathbf r_N \delta(\mathbf r - \mathbf r_i)\delta(\mathbf r_i - \mathbf r')|\Psi(\mathbf r_1,\dots, \mathbf r_N)|^2 = N\int d\mathbf r_2\dots d\mathbf r_N \delta(\mathbf r - \mathbf r')|\Psi(\mathbf r,\dots, \mathbf r_N)|^2$$For the last line. I am assuming $$\int dx\int dy \delta(x-y)\delta(y-x')f(y) = \int dx \delta(x-x')f(x)$$

Morbert said:
I've never seen the two-electron density written like that. Here are my thoughts but I can't say for sure.Considering the terms where ##i=j## $$\sum_{i}\delta(\mathbf r-\mathbf r_i)\delta(\mathbf r' - \mathbf r_i)$$We should be able to use the identities ##\delta(x - y) = \delta(y - x)## and ##\int dy \delta(x-y)\delta(y-x') = \delta(x-x')## So we rewrite the above as $$\sum_{i}\delta(\mathbf r-\mathbf r_i)\delta(\mathbf r_i - \mathbf r')$$ and when we are computing the electron density function we will be integrating over ##\mathbf r_i## so the latter identity suggests $$\sum_i\int d\mathbf r_1\dots d\mathbf r_N \delta(\mathbf r - \mathbf r_i)\delta(\mathbf r_i - \mathbf r')|\Psi(\mathbf r_1,\dots, \mathbf r_N)|^2 = N\int d\mathbf r_2\dots d\mathbf r_N \delta(\mathbf r - \mathbf r')|\Psi(\mathbf r,\dots, \mathbf r_N)|^2$$For the last line. I am assuming $$\int dx\int dy \delta(x-y)\delta(y-x')f(y) = \int dx \delta(x-x')f(x)$$
Got it. I appreciate the help.
 
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