Determining Acid Concentration for Chemistry Students

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The discussion revolves around determining the concentration of hydrochloric acid (HCl) solutions and the calculations involved in preparing specific molar concentrations of HCl and sodium hydroxide (NaOH) for chemistry applications. Participants explore various methods for converting percentage concentrations to molarity and the necessary calculations for titration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the initial steps to determine the volume of HCl needed for titration with NaOH, indicating uncertainty about how to start the calculations.
  • Another participant explains the neutralization reaction between NaOH and HCl, stating that the moles of HCl required will equal the moles of NaOH present.
  • A method is proposed to convert the percentage concentration of HCl to molarity by assuming a 100 g solution and calculating the number of moles of HCl based on its molar mass.
  • Participants discuss the molar mass of HCl, with one confirming the value as approximately 36.46 g/mol.
  • One participant presents a problem involving the preparation of a 12M HCl solution from a 37% HCl solution and seeks guidance on the calculations required.
  • Another participant asks how to calculate the mass of solid NaOH needed to prepare a 6M NaOH solution, indicating a need for clarification on density and percentage calculations.
  • There is a discussion about converting mass percentages to molarity using the density of the solutions, with a specific calculation provided for the 37% HCl solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods for calculating molarity from percentage concentrations and the stoichiometry of the neutralization reaction. However, there are multiple questions and problems presented, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding specific calculations and approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the initial steps in calculations, the assumptions made regarding densities, and the conversion processes from mass percentages to molarity. These limitations highlight the complexity of the calculations involved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for chemistry students or individuals interested in understanding the calculations involved in preparing acid-base solutions and performing titrations.

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Hi, I got this question for my chemistry class, and I simply don't know where to start. Do I have to find out the volume of HCl first?

The label on a bottle of hydrochloric acid says the solution is 3.7% hydrogen chloride. You wish to the determine the actual concentration. You fill a burette with the acid, but before you do the titration, you would like to know how much acid you need to add to the 10 mL of 1.0 mol/L sodium hydroxide to turn the blue bromthymol blue solution green. You can assume the density of the dilute acid is essentially that of water. :confused:
 
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While neutralizing a Sodium Hydroxide solution with HCl the following reaction occurs,
NaOH + HCl --> NaCl + H2O,
For every 1 moles of NaOH present in solution, 1 mole of HCl is required to neutralize it and produce 1 mole of NaCl and H2O.

First, I would find the number of moles of NaOH in 10 mL of a 1 Molar (mol/L) solution, this would also be the same number of moles of HCl needed to neutralize it.
Now that you know the number of moles of HCl required, now you must calculate the volume of HCl solution needed. Your acid solution's concentration is given as a % mass of HCl (the rest being water), I think it would be easier to deal with this as a Molar concentration.

To convert x % mass to Molar, assume you have 100 grams of the solution, which means you x grams of HCl, which we know is (x / molar weight of HCl) number of moles. That number of moles is dissolved in the remaining weight of water (100 - x) grams. If we assume the density of this acid is 1 g/mL, then we can easily get the volume of the solvent. Once you have both these number, calculate the Molar concentration.

Back to the problem at hand. Now that you know the molar concentration of the acid (moles / Liter) and you know the number of moles you need, now it just is a matter of solving for the volume.
(Molar concentration = moles / volume) --> (Molar concentration * volume = moles)
 
Thank you so much!
When you say molar weight of HCl, do you mean 36.5 g/mol?
 
yes,
(1.01 g/mol of H) + (35.45 g/mol Cl) = 36.46 g/mol HCl
 
Hi all,
I want to ask you about some problem (help my friend):
I have:
1)12M HCl, MG: 36,46g, Density:1,16g/cm3 (37% HCl=12M)

I have already calculation: 12M of HCl=12mol/lx 36,46g/mol=437,52g/l.

So, How much (ml) of 37% must need to prepare a 12M HCl solution? (How to calculate?)

1)6NaOH, MG: 40g, Density:1,353g/cm3 (19,62% HCl=12M)

I have already calculation: 6M of NaOH=6mol/lx 40g/mol=240g/l.

So, how much (g) solid NaOH nee prepare for 6M NaOH?

And one the question: How can calculation % (37%and 19,62%) from density? I have this result from my friend.

Many thanks


Please help me as soon as.
 
nguyenh said:
Hi all,
I want to ask you about some problem (help my friend):
I have:
1)12M HCl, MG: 36,46g, Density:1,16g/cm3 (37% HCl=12M)


1)6NaOH, MG: 40g, Density:1,353g/cm3 (19,62% HCl=12M)

So, how much (g) solid NaOH nee prepare for 6M NaOH?

And one the question: How can calculation % (37%and 19,62%) from density?

you know that the % is a m/m % ? --> for 1) 37 % HCl = 37 g HCl / 100 g solution

now we need to go from the unit g HCl/g to mol/L. You can convert g HCl to mol HCl with [tex]M_{W}[/tex] and g solution can be converted to L solution using the density.

So for the first one: 37% HCl = [tex]\frac {(37/36.46)} {(100/1.16) \cdot 10^{-3}} = 12 M[/tex]

Now you can apply the same kind of calcualtion to get to know the mass of NaOH needed to prepare a 6 M NaOH solution with a volume for example 100 mL
 
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