Difference between hammer and press forging?

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The discussion centers on the differences between hammer forging and press forging, particularly in terms of material behavior, machining challenges, and structural characteristics such as grain flow and hardness. Participants share their experiences with specific steel grades, namely 42CrMo4, in both forging methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a significant difference in machinability between hammer forged square bars and press forged round bars of the same material, suggesting that the forging process affects material behavior.
  • Another participant mentions that press forged components require less stock removal due to their dimensional accuracy, but they also indicate potential issues with heat treatment or material quality that could affect machining.
  • A later reply suggests that the differences may relate to work hardening and forging temperatures, although this is not elaborated upon in detail.
  • One post introduces a company specializing in forged metals, providing information about their products and capabilities, but does not directly address the technical differences in forging methods.

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Participants express differing views on the machinability and structural properties of hammer forged versus press forged components, indicating that there is no consensus on the reasons for the observed differences.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential issues with heat treatment and material quality, which may influence the discussion but are not resolved. The discussion does not clarify the specific mechanisms behind the differences in machinability or structural characteristics.

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Hi to all,
Could someone explain the difference between hammer forging and press forging.
I understand the process of both methods but I need to understand more in depth the difference in structure, grain flow, hardness etc if any.
We have been successfully machining 42crmo4 Hammer forged square bar for 4 years.
Now we have to machine 42crm04 Press forged round bar, it is virtually un-machineable.
So we have the same material spec but it behaves very differently.

Can anyone help??
Many thanks
 
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fiddler30 said:
Hi to all,
Could someone explain the difference between hammer forging and press forging.
I understand the process of both methods but I need to understand more in depth the difference in structure, grain flow, hardness etc if any.
We have been successfully machining 42crmo4 Hammer forged square bar for 4 years.
Now we have to machine 42crm04 Press forged round bar, it is virtually un-machineable.
So we have the same material spec but it behaves very differently.

Can anyone help??
Many thanks

Most likely gets down to something related to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_hardening" differences between hammer and press, and the forging temperature.
 
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Hi..
We have both roots for the crankshaft assembly that we manufacture.
The stock removal is lesser in case of press forged component as they more accurate in dimension but as far as machining is concerned there is a little difference between the two.
There can be something wrong with the heatreatment oe material of the components.
We will have to check that.
 
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