Do the crime, do the time, or Shakespeare

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around an initiative in New York where young offenders may have the option to participate in Shakespearian theater as an alternative to incarceration or community service. Participants explore the implications of this approach and suggest alternative forms of punishment or rehabilitation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the effectiveness of theater as a punishment or rehabilitation method.
  • One participant questions whether the initiative aligns with constitutional protections against cruel and unusual punishment.
  • Another suggests that requiring extra math courses might be a more beneficial alternative.
  • There is a viewpoint that physical pain may be the only effective deterrent for some young offenders, with an emphasis on the potential for embarrassment to serve as a deterrent as well.
  • Participants discuss the utility of learning something useful through alternative programs, although this is met with criticism regarding spelling and clarity in communication.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness or appropriateness of using theater as an alternative to traditional punishment, with multiple competing views expressed regarding the best approach to rehabilitation.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments rely on assumptions about the nature of deterrence and the effectiveness of educational versus punitive measures, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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I didn't see this on the internet yet, but there was just a story on CNN about kids in trouble, in New York, who are given the option to do Shakespearian theater instead of time in jail [maybe community service?].

I didn't know there was a difference. :biggrin:
 
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Isn't there something in the Constitution about cruel and unusual punishment :biggrin:
 
Why don't they just make them take extra math couces?
 
scott1 said:
Why don't they just make them take extra math couces?

Precisely why.
 
I am sure pain is the only deterant these kids know, some times the pain
of embarassment is more than physical pain, but i would still kick their asses
first.
 
cronxeh said:
Precisely why.
Because atleast they'll learn somthing useful
 
scott1 said:
Because atleast they'll learn somthing useful

Your spelling was the reason. I don't usually ask questions to answers I already possesses :rolleyes:
 

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