Understanding Perception: The Role of Our Senses in Interpreting Mass and Colors

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The discussion revolves around the nature of perception and its relationship to physical properties such as mass and color. Participants explore whether objects possess mass independently of human interaction and how sensory interpretation affects our understanding of reality. The scope includes conceptual reasoning and philosophical implications regarding measurement and observation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that color, taste, and smell are interpretations made by the brain based on sensory input, questioning the nature of mass in a similar context.
  • Another participant claims that objects do have mass regardless of human interaction, suggesting that experiments can measure mass without the need for sensory perception.
  • A subsequent reply challenges the certainty of the first claim by asking for evidence of how mass is known to exist without sensory interaction.
  • Further responses emphasize the distinction between physical properties like mass and sensory experiences, with one participant arguing that nature exists independently of human perception.
  • A final comment suggests that the discussion lacks a scientific basis and refers to other threads on quantum mechanics interpretations, indicating a belief that such discussions often lead to inconclusive outcomes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether mass exists independently of human perception, with no consensus reached on the implications of measurement and observation in relation to reality.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on philosophical questions regarding the nature of reality and perception, with references to quantum mechanics interpretations that remain unresolved. There are limitations in the assumptions made about the relationship between measurement and existence.

satyesu
There is no color until the brain interprets wavelengths as such. Same for taste and smell; they are just chemicals until we use our senses. Sounds are vibrations until they hit our ears. Do things have mass before we touch them?
 
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satyesu said:
Do things have mass before we touch them?
Yes.
 
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How do you know?
 
satyesu said:
How do you know?
Experiments to measure the mass of objects provide definite results even when no human brains or other sensory apparatus is involved. This is altogether different from the example of color that you cited above, where until we just have light of a particular wavelength until the brain interprets it.
 
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satyesu said:
How do you know?
I'm humble enough to know that nature doesn't need ME to be. And for several hours each day, I don't touch my bed. Yet, it is always there, where I left it.

This thread bears any basis. For discussions whether measurements or observations affects reality, please search for the dozens of dozens of threads in the Quantum Physics Forum about QM interpretations. But be warned: they always run into nowhere land. For this reason I close this thread, formally because it is not based on scientific material, informally because there is no chance, that anything useful develops from the question.

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