Does dark matter have to be one particle

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The discussion revolves around the nature of dark matter, specifically whether it must be represented by a single type of particle or if it could consist of multiple varieties. Participants explore theoretical implications, potential models, and characteristics of dark matter, touching on concepts from particle physics and cosmology.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that dark matter could consist of multiple particles rather than a single type, raising the possibility of various heavy, slow, and electrically neutral particles contributing to dark matter.
  • Others caution against introducing unnecessary complexity, arguing that a simpler model may be preferable unless evidence suggests otherwise.
  • One participant notes that defining dark matter as a particle implies it could represent a family of particles governed by common principles.
  • There are references to speculative ideas, such as "mirror" dark matter, which posits a hidden sector mirroring the Standard Model, although concerns about the implications of such models are raised.
  • Some participants highlight that while there may be multiple species of dark matter particles, current research often focuses on simpler models, such as the lightest supersymmetric particle, which may dominate detection efforts.
  • One viewpoint suggests that as research progresses, initial findings of a single dark matter particle may evolve into a recognition of a broader family of particles as subtleties are discovered.
  • Concerns are expressed regarding the "clumpiness" of dark matter models, with implications for gravitational lensing and the behavior of stars in these frameworks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is no definitive reason to believe dark matter must be a single particle, and multiple competing views remain regarding the nature and characteristics of dark matter. The discussion reflects a range of hypotheses and uncertainties without a consensus on the matter.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations in current understanding and detection capabilities, suggesting that the exploration of dark matter is still in its early stages, with many assumptions and unresolved questions remaining.

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Whenever physicist talk about dark matter they always seem to be implying that dark matter is one particle. Does this have to be the case? Could there not be many particles that are heavy, slow and with no electric charge that could all be varieties of dark matter.
 
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There could be, but why add a bunch of epicycles unnecessarily?
 
KeplerJunior said:
Whenever physicist talk about dark matter they always seem to be implying that dark matter is one particle. Does this have to be the case? Could there not be many particles that are heavy, slow and with no electric charge that could all be varieties of dark matter.

Of course there could be. Remember though, particles come in families. Hadrons (baryons and mesons), leptons, fermions, etc.

Saying Dark Matter is a particle is essentially saying Dark Matter is a family of particles, defined by some common principle.
 
I seem to recall some rather outlandish ideas about "mirror" dark matter floating around some time ago, in which there was a full "copy" of all the Standard Model particles and forces in a hidden dark sector. You could then have a whole dark universe, complete with stars and planets. So there are lots of wild ideas out there. This amount of "clumpiness" in the dark sector is somewhat ruled out these days though, I think.
 
KeplerJunior said:
Whenever physicist talk about dark matter they always seem to be implying that dark matter is one particle.

I don't think they are. We do know that whatever forms dark matter has the same *types* of characteristics (it's cold and dark), but there is nothing that says that it's only one type of cold dark matter.

In fact, one of the candidates for dark matter are supersymmetric particles and there are tons of different types of those particles.

Could there not be many particles that are heavy, slow and with no electric charge that could all be varieties of dark matter.

Yes.
 
Most particle physicists would agree there is no reason to believe only one species of DM particles exists. As already mentioned, there are a number of species of ordinary matter particles, and little to suggest the DM realm is not similarly populated.
 
Chronos said:
Most particle physicists would agree there is no reason to believe only one species of DM particles exists. As already mentioned, there are a number of species of ordinary matter particles, and little to suggest the DM realm is not similarly populated.

While this is true, since we are just scratching the tip of the iceberg for direct detection of dark matter particles, we are starting with the simplest cases where there is just one. A common example is that DM could be the lightest supersymmetric particle, which is prevented from decay by R-parity. In such a model, even if other supersymmetric particles possesses qualities like that of dark matter, they quickly decay into the lightest one and you're left with essentially one DM particle.

Similarly, things like axions are only one particle rather than a whole dark sector. Ultimately, we understand these simple physical scenarios the best and they are perhaps the best motivated by theoretical concerns. If it turns out that we do find some DM particles, but only a small fraction of what we should have found, this could provide good evidence for a much larger dark sector.
 
Nabeshin said:
While this is true, since we are just scratching the tip of the iceberg for direct detection of dark matter particles, we are starting with the simplest cases where there is just one.
Personally, I suspect it will be more a matter of finding one defining property of dark matter particles - so it will essentially be one particle to us - but as we get more sophisticated, we will discover subtleties starting to emerge, so that the first one particle will be differentiated into more and more, until we have a whole family.

We've found a dark matter particle, which we'll call a darkepton.
Now we're finding subtle differences in darkeptons, we'll call these ones up darkeptons and those ones down darkeptons.
 
kurros said:
I seem to recall some rather outlandish ideas about "mirror" dark matter floating around some time ago, in which there was a full "copy" of all the Standard Model particles and forces in a hidden dark sector. You could then have a whole dark universe, complete with stars and planets. So there are lots of wild ideas out there. This amount of "clumpiness" in the dark sector is somewhat ruled out these days though, I think.
The "clumpiness" is the problem with these models. Compact dark objects would give a lot of gravitational lensing, which would have been detected by the exoplanet searches. In addition, it would give some strange systems like stars orbiting "nothing" (not even a black hole).
 

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