Does the present moment truly exist?

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The discussion revolves around the philosophical and conceptual question of whether the present moment truly exists. Participants explore the nature of time, the definition of the present, and how it relates to the past and future. The conversation includes speculative reasoning and various interpretations of time, touching on both philosophical and physical perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to define or measure the present moment, suggesting it could be a second, millisecond, or even a shorter duration, implying that by the time we think about it, it becomes the past.
  • Another participant argues that the present occurs at a specific time ("now") and does not have a time interval, challenging the need for a measurable duration.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the present is a state of awareness that only becomes apparent once it has passed, thus questioning its existence as a measurable entity.
  • One participant proposes that time is an illusion, asserting that if neither the past nor the future is real, then only the present exists, leading to a belief that time, in a traditional sense, may not exist at all.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the question itself, labeling it as nonsensical.
  • A later reply claims that the question has been satisfactorily answered, though no details are provided on the resolution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature of the present moment, with no consensus reached. Some argue for the existence of the present as a specific time, while others question its definability and existence altogether.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of measuring time and the philosophical interpretations of time's existence, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of time and the present moment.

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I was watching a video on the arrow of time, and it got me quizzing ... does the present i.e. now actually exist?

The past can be said to be something that happened at a certain time ... i.e. a second ago, a minute ago etc. The future can be said to be something that may/will/could happen and a time can be linked to that too ... "Grandma said she will ring in 30 minutes". But what about the present?

If the present is what's happening at this moment in time, how do you define, or measure, the moment? Is it what's happening this second? If it can be a second why can't it be a millisecond, or a nanosecond? Or an amount of time that is to quick for us to even realize? Which would then mean by the time we've thought about what's happening in the present it becomes the past and then there is no present.

Sorry if my terminology is incorrect, I'm not a physicist, although I do have a deep interest in physics.
 
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Why would it be necessary to define a time interval for the present? The present occurs at a specicific time ("now"). It does not have a time interval.
 
we can't observe anything else in our present until it's in the past :wink:
 
Why would it be necessary to define a time interval for the present? The present occurs at a specicific time ("now"). It does not have a time interval.

The present is a period of time that occurs now, and as it's time - which can be measured - shouldn't it be possible to define and measure now?

Does now have no interval or is it's interval variable?

I only ask out of pure curiosity and I thought this is the best place to ask such questions. Even the definition of time includes the present, but the present differs from the past and the future which can both me measured the same.

It's as if it's a state that we're aware of, but it's only until it's passed that we're aware of it which by then it's the past.
 
I think I can see the point you are making Imageek.

It seem to be a popular conception of time that the moment of 'now' is this tiny fraction of a second that happens so briefly that we can never quite catch it. There is the past which has gone and the future forever arriving, so where is now?

The answer I have been playing with is this: 'time' is an illusion. By the same reasoning which creates our linear conception of time, the past is something which has 'gone' and so it is in fact no longer real. And, by the same token, the future which has not arrived yet is also not real. So if, neither the past or the future are real, what are we left with? We are left with the present. The present, everything that is
here - now - is real. To
my mind it follows that despite my culturally inherited belief in the idea
of time, that it does not actually exist. The only thing, which is everything, exists now, and that is all there ever will be. It does
not mean that change does not happen. Change certainly does happen. But for the moment I feel inclined to suspend the belief that the existence of change is enough to prove that time is something that is real - well at least in the typically Newtonian sense of a linear flow, which despite a hundred years of relativity, a person can still be very tied to. My understanding (albeit very limited) of relativity is that it all exists together: past, present and future. Which still seems to me to say that all there is, is what is present.

Time seems to me to be hard to get one's head around. I mean in the universe there is matter and there is energy. So what is time? If time is not substance and it is not energy, then does it really - like really exist?
 
what a nonsensical question.
 
The question has been satisfactorily answered.
 

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