Double Slit Experiment: Questions and Answers

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The discussion revolves around the double slit experiment, particularly focusing on the behavior of electrons and the implications of their wave-particle duality. Participants explore theoretical questions regarding the nature of electrons, the conditions under which interference patterns occur, and historical context related to experimental findings.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the assumption that an electron is a single object that passes through one slit, proposing the idea that it might pass through both slits simultaneously and interfere with itself.
  • There is a query about the limits of slit separation and how it affects the interference pattern, with one participant suggesting that theoretically, interference should occur regardless of distance, though practical challenges arise with larger setups.
  • One participant raises a hypothetical scenario about detecting electrons at both slits and questions why simultaneous detection does not yield the same interference pattern, indicating a deeper complexity in the phenomenon.
  • Historical context is provided regarding the development of experiments with electrons, noting that significant milestones occurred in the 1960s and 1980s, including work by Claus Jönsson and Akira Tonomura, with references to the use of electron biprisms and single electron emissions.
  • There is a discussion about whether Jönsson's experiments demonstrated interference with single electrons, with some participants expressing uncertainty and referencing additional historical experiments from the 1970s.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of electrons and the implications of experimental results. The discussion remains unresolved, with differing interpretations of historical experiments and their significance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in understanding the experimental setups and the complexities involved in detecting electrons, as well as the dependence on specific definitions and conditions of the experiments discussed.

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so - i understand the basic double slit experiment - and like any sane person, am having a hard time understanding the electron-at-a-time outcome. but i have some questions...

1) why do we assume that an electron is a single "object" or whatever that would pass through one or the other slit? is it possible that the electron, in some way, does pass through both slits? that a wave or particle is not necessarily a single thing, but instead something fundamentally different that can pass through both slits and interfere with itself...

2) what are the limits of how it passes through them? in other words - if the "emitter" is inside a cylinder - how far apart can the slits be before the outcome is not an interference pattern?

thanks ...
 
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underworld said:
so - i understand the basic double slit experiment - and like any sane person, am having a hard time understanding the electron-at-a-time outcome. but i have some questions...

1) why do we assume that an electron is a single "object" or whatever that would pass through one or the other slit? is it possible that the electron, in some way, does pass through both slits? that a wave or particle is not necessarily a single thing, but instead something fundamentally different that can pass through both slits and interfere with itself...

2) what are the limits of how it passes through them? in other words - if the "emitter" is inside a cylinder - how far apart can the slits be before the outcome is not an interference pattern?

The double-slit experiment is the classic example of the electron behaving like a wave. The photo-electric effect is the classic example of the electron behaving like a particle.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect).

At least theoretically, the interference pattern occurs for any distance. Obviously, as the experiment gets larger, external factors become more and more difficult to control.
 
underworld said:
so - i understand the basic double slit experiment - and like any sane person, am having a hard time understanding the electron-at-a-time outcome. but i have some questions...

1) why do we assume that an electron is a single "object" or whatever that would pass through one or the other slit? is it possible that the electron, in some way, does pass through both slits? that a wave or particle is not necessarily a single thing, but instead something fundamentally different that can pass through both slits and interfere with itself...

If this is true, then if I put a detector at BOTH slits, I would detect a simultaneous signal coming from both slits even when I am only shooting one electron at a time, no? Yet, how come this doesn't happen? Not only that, but how come when I do use such a detector, I no longer get the same interference pattern that I did before?

It is more profound than what you have explained.

Zz.
 
underworld said:
1) why do we assume that an electron is a single "object" or whatever that would pass through one or the other slit? is it possible that the electron, in some way, does pass through both slits?

I encourage you to investigate the experimental results. They are interesting. The specific case regarding electrons is rather recent (1989), and if you Google "Hitatchi single slit" you can find a summary online.

However, it should be noted that the electron-based experiment setup is not quite the same as the dual slit method. Instead of slits, a small charged filament (1 micron in width, called an electron biprism) is placed within an electron microscope. An interference pattern results, even when the electron emission intensity is quite low (no more than one electron in the device at anyone time). It should be noted that this result was noticed much earlier by others.
 
DeepQ said:
I encourage you to investigate the experimental results. They are interesting. The specific case regarding electrons is rather recent (1989), and if you Google "Hitatchi single slit" you can find a summary online.
According to this article, the 1989 experiment was actually not the first:
But in 1961 Claus Jönsson of Tübingen, who had been one of Möllenstedt's students, finally performed an actual double-slit experiment with electrons for the first time (Zeitschrift für Physik 161 454). Indeed, he demonstrated interference with up to five slits. The next milestone - an experiment in which there was just one electron in the apparatus at anyone time - was reached by Akira Tonomura and co-workers at Hitachi in 1989 when they observed the build up of the fringe pattern with a very weak electron source and an electron biprism (American Journal of Physics 57 117-120). Whereas Jönsson's experiment was analogous to Young's original experiment, Tonomura's was similar to G I Taylor's. (Note added on May 7: Pier Giorgio Merli, Giulio Pozzi and GianFranco Missiroli carried out double-slit interference experiments with single electrons in Bologna in the 1970s; see Merli et al. in Further reading and the letters from Steeds, Merli et al., and Tonomura at the end of this article.)
 
JesseM said:
According to this article, the 1989 experiment was actually not the first:

Yes, thanks. That's why I mentioned "others". But, did Claus Jönsson prove it for single electrons? (I've not read the paper.)
 
DeepQ said:
Yes, thanks. That's why I mentioned "others". But, did Claus Jönsson prove it for single electrons? (I've not read the paper.)
Just going by that paragraph, I would assume not--after discussing his experiment, they say "The next milestone - an experiment in which there was just one electron in the apparatus at anyone time - was reached by Akira Tonomura and co-workers at Hitachi in 1989". But then they added that paranthetical revision to the paragraph indicating that "Pier Giorgio Merli, Giulio Pozzi and GianFranco Missiroli carried out double-slit interference experiments with single electrons in Bologna in the 1970s", so I suppose this was the first experiment demonstrating interference with single electrons.
 

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