Explaining the Color Variations of Main Sequence Stars

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The discussion revolves around the color variations of main sequence stars, specifically questioning why stars of different masses, despite all undergoing hydrogen fusion, exhibit different colors. The scope includes theoretical explanations and conceptual clarifications related to stellar physics and thermodynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why all main sequence stars do not exhibit the same color if they all engage in hydrogen fusion.
  • Another participant challenges this assumption, asking why it should be expected that all stars would have the same color.
  • A participant suggests that larger stars have higher temperatures and thus different colors due to more rapid hydrogen fusion.
  • It is noted that the visual color of a star is dependent on its surface temperature, which correlates with its mass, while also discussing the concept of black bodies and thermal radiation.
  • A participant proposes that main sequence stars have similar core temperatures due to hydrogen fusion, but this does not imply they have the same surface temperature, which is influenced by luminosity and radius.
  • Another participant elaborates on the relationship between luminosity, radius, and mass, suggesting that the surface temperature is proportional to mass raised to a power of about 0.4, indicating significant differences in temperature for stars of varying masses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between mass, core temperature, surface temperature, and color of stars. There is no consensus on the expectations regarding color variations among main sequence stars, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the relationships between mass, luminosity, and surface temperature, as well as the implications of black body radiation. Some mathematical relationships are mentioned but not fully resolved or agreed upon.

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If all main sequence stars are engaged only in hydrogen fusion, why don't they all exhibit the same color?
 
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Why do you think they should?
 
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Hmm, I thought that I was asking the question. Seriously though, since all main sequence stars generate thermal energy via the same hydrogen fusion reactions and it is the thermal energy that determines a star's surface temperature, why should a larger star display a different color (as dictated by the Wien relationship) than a smaller star? I must be missing something basic here.
 
More massive stars fuse hydrogen more rapidly, hence have higher temperatures, hence have the corresponding colour.
 
The visual color of a star depends on it surface temperature which also depends on its mass. While composition appears to affect the apparent color displayed by burning objects on Earth this is because these objects do not behave as perfect black bodies - a term coined by the physicist kirchhoff in the 19th century to describe a body in thermal equilibrium that does not reflect or otherwise re-emit any light that falls upon it. While, strictly speaking, no such thing as a perfect blackbody actually exists in nature, the difference is negligibly small for virtually all stars as well as most other souces of thermal radiation.
 
So write doen the Wien relationship, solve for T,and look at the right hand side. Which terms are the same for all stars and which ones are different?
 
The question can be answered fairy simply. Main sequence stars are fusing hydrogen in their core via a mechanism that closely regulates the core temperature, so to within about a factor of 2, they all have the same core temperature-- and that's your question. But this does not require that they should have the same surface temperature. The logic is, the surface temperature is set by the luminosity and the radius of the star, via the formula L = kR2Ts4, for k a constant, which solves for the surface temperature Ts = (L/kR2)1/4. So this shows that you need to know R and L. The L is generally set by radiative diffusion in the interior of the star, which depends on mass essentially because the mass is the "stuff" the light has to diffuse through, and this leads to a relation like L is proportional to M raised to the power 3.5 or so, depending on some opacity details. The point is, M determines L. So now you only need R, and this depends on the history of contraction required to get the core to fusion temperature. That can be determined by using the fact that the average energy per particle necessary for fusion must be about equal to the potential energy per particle, set by M/R. So that sets R-- it is the R needed, given M, to get fusion in the core, so roughly R is proportional to M. Put it all together, and you find Ts is proportional to M to a power of about 0.4, roughly. That says a star 10 times more massive, or 1/10 as massive, than the Sun should have a surface T that is about 3 times higher, or 1/3 as high. That's about right.
 
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